Ian, If you, or, any one els is interested in the accessibility list for LibreOffice it is as follows, SNIP! There is a LibreOffice mailinglist dedicated to accessibility. They might be interested in your feedback. You can subscribe to the list by sending a short message to accessibility+subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. (More information at http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/.) Keith Reedy Click the link below to download MP3's of Keith Reedy's music as a gift from Bibles For The Blind. http://biblesfortheblind.org/download_music.shtml God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor. On May 14, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Will download it when I get a chance today, definitely interested in the > accessibility list. > > Ian > > On 2013-05-14, at 10:55 AM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> You can download it from, >> http://www.libreoffice.org >> And let me know if you are interested in the accessibility list. >> Keith Reedy >> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> On May 14, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Keith, let me know if you come across a need for test pilots for their >>> accessibility work. >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> On 2013-05-14, at 9:59 AM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> OpenOffice is now called LibreOffice and it still has some accessibility >>>> problems. I am working with some folks on there accessibility list to try >>>> to fix them. >>>> Keith Reedy >>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 14, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What about Open Office for the Mac? Someone suggested that to me. >>>>> >>>>> Cindy Lou >>>>> >>>>> On May 14, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Just a heads up regarding Pages and Numbers. While they are the >>>>>> equivalent to MS Office, there are a few things that lack the >>>>>> power/authority you get from, for example, JFW with MS Word. Primary >>>>>> among these is the use of tables, which don't work under Voiceover. >>>>>> Apple Accessiblity says this is on the radar, but the last thing they >>>>>> told me was that nothing could really be done until an update to Pages >>>>>> itself, which hasn't happened since 2009. I also find I don't have the >>>>>> same control over things like columns. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are a couple of free word processors out there which do a decent >>>>>> job. I currently use Bean quite a bit, especially for documents that >>>>>> need headers and will end up as pdfs for people. >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing to remember is that the Jaws people and the MS Office people >>>>>> worked together with a particular focus on workplace productivity. Other >>>>>> things got left out in the process. My needs shfited from document >>>>>> production to a need for coordination, so seamless interactivity through >>>>>> my phone and Mac through iCloud became really important, and I settled >>>>>> for *good enough* in terms of documents. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just some thoughts, >>>>>> >>>>>> Ian >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2013-05-13, at 2:05 PM, covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You also have a voiceover option to make the cursor work like it does >>>>>>> under Windows. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Andrew, >>>>>>>> I am not sure about an SSH client, so I will leave that up to someone >>>>>>>> else who is knowledgeable in that area. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As for your editing area, remember that the cursors act differently as >>>>>>>> far as how VoiceOver identifies characters. On the Mac, the character >>>>>>>> the cursor passes over is spoken, while the Windows way is the >>>>>>>> character to the right of the cursor. This might be what you are >>>>>>>> experiencing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As for an Office package, the Apple Pages and Numbers applications are >>>>>>>> the equivalent to Word and Excel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 13, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "Andrew Ireland" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I joined the list today. I have had my new Mac mini for just over a >>>>>>>>> week >>>>>>>>> and would be grateful if someone could clear up a few questions >>>>>>>>> please. >>>>>>>>> This is me moving back to Mac after 5 years. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What is the best SSH client to use? I have tried terminal with no >>>>>>>>> success >>>>>>>>> at all. I need to connect to a CentOS system. A sighted friend >>>>>>>>> recommended >>>>>>>>> VSSH, however, I was reluctant to purchase it not knowing if it would >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> accessible with Voice Over. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am experiencing a strange problem when composing a new e-mail >>>>>>>>> message in >>>>>>>>> Mac Mail. If I delete 1 character and type another character it would >>>>>>>>> appear to just delete the character I had just typed. If I interact >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> the mail window everything is fine. My question is, do you need to >>>>>>>>> interact >>>>>>>>> when typing a new message or using text edit? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wonder if anyone can recommend the best Office package to enable >>>>>>>>> word >>>>>>>>> processing and spread sheets? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Many thanks in advance for any information. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Andrew. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link >>>>>>>>>> below. >>>>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>>>>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>>>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Your life is like a penny. 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