[macvoiceover] Re: Iphone: entering numbers while on a call
- From: Alex de Jong <dejonga@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:31:17 +0200
Just out of curiosity: I always use a headset with my current nokia + talks
combo, as I annoy the heck out of the people around me at work if I have
Talks coming over the speaker. It's one reason why I opted for a bluetooth
headset, because it was the most elegant solution for my problem at work.
Also, if credit card numbers are read back to me I'd rather not have that
happening through the speaker. I do need two hands to operate my phone.
Maybe I'm challenged that way. //grin//
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:23 PM, David Poehlman <
david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I agree. nothing is for everyone.
>
> On Jun 25, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Richard Ring wrote:
>
> Now, here is my professional opinion. The iPhone is an excellent
> alternative for many blind people. However, as a technology teacher, I
> can tell you that there will be individuals who will have trouble
> learning it. That doesn't make the iPhone a bad thing, but I don't get
> to pick and choose those whom I instruct, and everyone simply doesn't
> learn at the same level, nor do they grasp technology concepts at the
> same rate and with the same proficiency. I was as excited to see the
> iPhone as the next person, but I know that I would almost have to use
> headphones to understand Samantha, bless her heart!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:54 AM
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Iphone: entering numbers while on a call
>
> ok, I don't think we are getting this right, you are perfectly within
> your right to do what you have stated. At first, it seemed you were
> offering yourproffessional opinion. after that, at least I just
> wanted to know what the issue is. granted, samantha, granted, you ave
> trouble with touch screens.
>
> On Jun 25, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Richard Ring wrote:
>
> I have played with it. I have difficulty understanding the speech, and
> I don't feel as though I can do touch screens all that well. What I
> find interesting is that if I offer an opinion which only covers my
> personal view, it is as if I have transgressed. I wish I could use the
> iPhone, but I know what I can and cannot do. If it had a different
> voice, I might well try one. I agree with what has been said about
> Windows Mobile phones running Mobile/Speak. Talks and Symbian I believe
> work far better.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:05 AM
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Iphone: entering numbers while on a call
>
> I find it interesting that someone watching someone learn to use an
> IPhone or any device can draw any vlid conclusions on what their
> competence with the device might be. Were I evaluating the product,
> I'd look to the experts and yes, we have some really expert stuff
> already available from shane's podcasts and josh and the gang.
>
> Apple and AT&T are changing what it means to be blind.
>
> On Jun 24, 2009, at 8:55 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>
> Obviously, when the day is done, ones personal preferences and
> choice is all that matters. I do find it fascinating with any
> product, not just the iPhone, that some folks express definite
> opinions without ever having used or tried a product or base their
> thoughts on expectation and estimation alone. However, as I said,
> that occurs with any opinion, and with the iPhone, the moment I read
> about it, I knew it would surpass my experiences with any other cell
> phone. I email and text message just fine, and, in fact, I find it
> easier to text message on the iPhone than using the key pad on my
> Nokia. Interestingly enough, business is the main target for the 3.0
> software, which includes Exchange support, among other Enterprise
> related features. Ironically, , I have recently read three articles
> that strongly indicate that the iPhone is simply not a "fun phone"
> geared for the consumer market alone. I just spoke to a woman who
> told me her company is going to be switching to iPhones for the entire
> field staff of over 1500 people by September. This appears to be more
> than just a minor trend, according to an recent article in the Wall
> Street Journal.
>
> Take Care
>
> John D. Panarese
> Managing Director
> Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
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> On Jun 24, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Richard Ring wrote:
>
> Of course not. iPhones are selling like crazy. I'm simply saying
>> that
>> I have been watching someone learn to use one, and I can't imagine
>> relying on this device to do email, texting etc. This doesn't mean
>> that
>> people aren't going to do it, I am speaking strictly for me. I really
>> get the impression that the iPhone is more of a fun phone than a
>> business phone, that is all I am saying. I think that apple should be
>> seriously commended for coming up with a way to make this device
>> accessible. Ok, I'm old fashioned, I like physical buttons.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane Jackson
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:06 PM
>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Iphone: entering numbers while on a call
>>
>> Well said, John. I'm talking to my wife and checking weather as we
>> speak. Well, I was just talking to her, if you want to get
>> technical. now, I'm typing to this list on my Mac. GOod stuff!
>> Shane Jackson
>> Vestavia Hills, Alabama, USA.
>> Email & MSN: jack728@xxxxxxxxx
>> Skype: cadal728
>> Twitter: jack728
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2009, at 2:58 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean by "actual work". Like any new
>>> device, it takes getting used to and using it. In doing so, you
>>> find ways of getting tasks done. At this stage, those of us who
>>> have iPhones are learning and exploring and becoming confident and
>>> proficient with them. I'm going to try this shortly, but I think
>>> one can check weather and make appointments while on a call.
>>> Additionally, I have no idea why a big deal is being made about
>>> using a headset. The earphones that come with the iPhone are not at
>>> all clumsy or awkward. Also, as has been mentioned, there are other
>>> ways around the issue of the screen being locked during a call,
>>> which, as far as I can tell, has not slowed the rate of sales of the
>>> device in the market place.
>>>
>>> Take Care
>>>
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Managing Director
>>> Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
>>> 9 Nolan Court
>>> Hauppauge, NY 11788
>>> Tel/Fax, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, tvii@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>> On Jun 24, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Richard Ring wrote:
>>>
>>> My best friend is now the proud owner of an iPhone, and she loves
>>>> it. She can't text as fast as I can, but I can't tell my phone
>>>> what music to play with my voice. What I would have to say though
>>>> is, I can't imagine doing what I would call actual work with the
>>>> iPhone. However, I could be wrong and only time will tell.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:40 PM
>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Iphone: entering numbers while on a call
>>>>
>>>> Hmm. That's a real minus. I never use a headset with my phone.
>>>> Donna
>>>>
>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex de Jong
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:28 PM
>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Iphone: entering numbers while on a call
>>>>
>>>> No: they expect you to use the iPhone with it's headset That's all.
>>>> Because then you have access to the phone's full functionality,
>>>> e.g. adding an appointment to the calendar, then coming back to the
>>>> phone app etc.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Marco <news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> So I guess Apple isn't perfect after all. They do have their
>>>> hardware flaws
>>>> as well as software problems. It's the only thing about mac users
>>>> that
>>>> drives me nuts is that they claim that their company is without
>>>> flaws and
>>>> that only Microsoft has problems. Hurray! Thank you Apple for
>>>> joining the
>>>> real world of digital!
>>>> Marco
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David
>>>> Poehlman
>>>> Sent: June 24, 2009 8:22 AM
>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Iphone: entering numbers while on a call
>>>>
>>>> click ad call or hold and it should work.
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 24, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This question was posed on another list. Anyone know the answer?
>>>> Best,
>>>> Donna
>>>> "i'm shocked I haven't come across this before, but how exactly is
>>>> one
>>>> supposed to enter touch tones while on a call? I can't seem to find
>>>> the
>>>> keypad text area or number while on a call."
>>>>
>>>>
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