[macvoiceover] Re: Iphone: entering numbers while on a call

  • From: "Richard Ring" <richard.ring@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:29:12 -0500

I think the manner in which we approach any given technology depends on
not only the interface, but on what we need to do with it.  I firmly
believe that this device is amazing.  Apple has taken an interface that
couldn't be more visual, and made it accessible.  I have in fact played
with an iPhone, and all that  I'm saying is that it would just take way
too much time for me to be as proficient and efficient on that device as
I am on my Nokia.  My friend /Sarah, on the other hand, love the thing.
She is reading Audible books, using applications from the iTunes store,
texting, emailing and so on.  The other reason why I can't do the iPhone
is the voice, Samantha.  I have a hearing loss, and that particular
voice is extremely difficult for me to understand.  I don't read text
documents on my Victor /Reader Stream for the same reason.  If they had
been able to use Alex, I might already have an iPhone, but I know that
it couldn't happen.


-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Panarese
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:55 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Iphone: entering numbers while on a call

     Obviously, when the day is done, ones personal preferences and  
choice is all that matters.  I do find it fascinating with any  
product, not just the iPhone,  that some folks express definite  
opinions without ever having used or tried a product or base their  
thoughts on expectation and estimation alone.  However, as I said,  
that occurs with any opinion, and with the iPhone, the moment I read  
about it, I knew it would surpass my experiences with any other cell  
phone.  I email and text message just fine, and, in fact, I find it  
easier to text message on the iPhone than using the key pad on my  
Nokia.  Interestingly enough, business is the main target for the 3.0  
software, which includes Exchange support, among other Enterprise  
related features.  Ironically, , I have recently read three articles  
that strongly indicate that the iPhone is simply not a "fun phone"  
geared for the consumer market alone.  I just spoke to a woman who  
told me her company is going to be switching to iPhones for the entire  
field staff of over 1500 people by September.  This appears to be more  
than just a minor trend, according to an recent article in the Wall  
Street Journal.

Take Care

John D. Panarese
Managing Director
Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
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On Jun 24, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Richard Ring wrote:

> Of course not.  iPhones are selling like crazy.  I'm simply saying  
> that
> I have been watching someone learn to use one, and I can't imagine
> relying on this device to do email, texting etc.  This doesn't mean  
> that
> people aren't going to do it, I am speaking strictly for me.  I really
> get the impression that the iPhone is more of a fun phone than a
> business phone, that is all I am saying.  I think that apple should be
> seriously commended for coming up with a way to make this device
> accessible.  Ok, I'm old fashioned, I like physical buttons.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane Jackson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:06 PM
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Iphone: entering numbers while on a call
>
> Well said, John.  I'm talking to my wife and checking weather as we
> speak.  Well, I was just talking to her, if you want to get
> technical.  now, I'm typing to this list on my Mac.  GOod stuff!
> Shane Jackson
> Vestavia Hills, Alabama, USA.
> Email & MSN:  jack728@xxxxxxxxx
> Skype:  cadal728
> Twitter:  jack728
>
> On Jun 24, 2009, at 2:58 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>
>>   I'm not sure what you mean by "actual work".  Like any new
>> device, it takes getting used to and using it.  In doing so, you
>> find ways of getting tasks done.  At this stage, those of us who
>> have iPhones are learning and exploring and becoming confident and
>> proficient with them.  I'm going to try this shortly, but I think
>> one can check weather and make appointments while on a call.
>> Additionally, I have no idea why a big deal is being made about
>> using a headset.  The earphones that come with the iPhone are not at
>> all clumsy or awkward.  Also, as has been mentioned, there are other
>> ways around the issue of the screen being locked during a call,
>> which, as far as I can tell, has not slowed the rate of sales of the
>> device in the market place.
>>
>> Take Care
>>
>> John D. Panarese
>> Managing Director
>> Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
>> 9 Nolan Court
>> Hauppauge, NY 11788
>> Tel/Fax, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, tvii@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Internet, http://www.tvi-web.com
>>
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>> PREMIER ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGIES, INDEX, PAPENMEIER, REPRO-TRONICS,
>> DUXBURY, SEROTEK AND OTHER PRODUCTS FOR THE BLIND AND VISUALLY
>> IMPAIRED
>>
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Richard Ring wrote:
>>
>>> My best friend is now the proud owner of an iPhone, and she loves
>>> it.  She can't text as fast as I can, but I can't tell my phone
>>> what music to play with my voice.  What I would have to say though
>>> is, I can't imagine doing what I would call actual work with the
>>> iPhone.  However, I could be wrong and only time will tell.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:40 PM
>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Iphone: entering numbers while on a call
>>>
>>> Hmm. That's a real minus.  I never use a headset with my phone.
>>> Donna
>>>
>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex de Jong
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:28 PM
>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Iphone: entering numbers while on a call
>>>
>>> No: they expect you to use the iPhone with it's headset That's all.
>>> Because then you have access to the phone's full functionality,
>>> e.g. adding an appointment to the calendar, then coming back to the
>>> phone app etc.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Marco <news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> So I guess Apple isn't perfect after all.  They do have their
>>> hardware flaws
>>> as well as software problems.  It's the only thing about mac users
>>> that
>>> drives me nuts is that they claim that their company is without
>>> flaws and
>>> that only Microsoft has problems.  Hurray!  Thank you Apple for
>>> joining the
>>> real world of digital!
>>> Marco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David
>>> Poehlman
>>> Sent: June 24, 2009 8:22 AM
>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Iphone: entering numbers while on a call
>>>
>>> click ad call or hold and it should work.
>>>
>>> On Jun 24, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>
>>> This question was posed on another list.  Anyone know the answer?
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> "i'm shocked I haven't come across this before, but how exactly is
>>> one
>>> supposed to enter touch tones while on a call? I can't seem to find
>>> the
>>> keypad text area or number while on a call."
>>>
>>>
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