Jacob,I just got my MacBook earlier today, and have it all set up now - imported all my settings, etc, from the old system, checked System Prefs and saw that the MacBook was, indeed, set to treat the Function keys as normal F-keys instead of performing their hardware functions, by default. However, I've observed this behavior, even though I've got the machine set not to perform the hardware functions, unless FN is pressed. This was getting me wondering if something were messed up in my previous system, or something got lost in the translation of migrating from desktop to laptop. Glad to see I'm not the only one experiencing this behavior.
Also, I've got 15 apps which load at startup, but VO doesn't see them in it's application chooser menu until I turn VO off, then back on again. Anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening? Frankly, it's a nuisance, and quite annoying. I ran Disc Warrior, and a permissions repair on the old system, before migrating it over, so can't see any obvious issues there.
Regards, Ron On Feb 11, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
Yes, VO does change this setting now, though it didn't used to do so. This can also be changed independently of VO under system preferences if you wish.On Feb 11, 2009, at 13:29, Ignasi Cambra wrote:I use VO on a Macbook. The only time I need to use the fn key is to turn VO on. For any other VO combinations that require the function keys at the top of the keyboard I don't need the fn key. In other words, the function keys behave just like in a normal Apple keyboard when VO is on. When you turn VO off, they come back to their original Macbook status (change volume, screen brightness etc...). I like it this way because I can change the volume easily when VO is on by pressing fn+f11 or f12.Ignasi On Feb 10, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Ron J. wrote:Hey Marty,Command-FN isn't a laptop command, but the FN key is something on laptops which allows you to use the function keys, at the top of the keyboard, as regular function keys, instead of their defaults, which perform hardware functions, such as increasing/decreasing screen brightness, raising/lowering the system volume, etc. To activate/deactivate VO on a laptop, you'd hold down the FN key and command keys together, while pressing F5. This tells the laptop to use the F5 key as a regular F5 key, instead of it's normal default function.You can reverse this behavior, in system preferences, under keyboard & mouse, which I, and many others, recommend for using a laptop with VO. Set up this way, holding the FN key, while pressing the function keys, will cause them to perform their hardware functions, instead.I'm not sure what this would correlate to on a standard keyboard. HTH? Ron On Feb 10, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Marty Rimpau wrote:Hi, is this command fn a lap top command, and how would this translateto a regular apple keyboard? On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:07:27 -0500, Ignasi Cambra wrote: I have installed Leopard using VO with no problems at all. When youpress command+fn+f5 VO starts talking (not with Alex's voice...) andeverything is perfectly accessible. On Feb 9, 2009, at 9:58 PM, Ron J. wrote:Travis, Sounds like that should help plenty! Will find out, for sure, onWednesday, unless, of course, the laptop manages to get out here tothe boonies, sooner! <grin> Thanks, Ron P.S. Have you had any more chance to look into why your News Readerprogram doesn't work on my system? Just thought I'd inquire while Iwas here. Again, thanks! On Feb 9, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:Both methods you describe are perfectly acceptable. I've used both of these methods to install copies of osx. 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