[macvoiceover] Re: IMPORTANT! FROM THE LIST ADMIN, off topic messages, please read!

  • From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:31:15 -0500

Keith, Yes, this helps very much.  Thanks for your explanation, and thanks
for doing a good job to keep us on track however narrow that track may
sometimes be.  If we have any question at all, we can certainly put OT in
the subject line.

Thanks again.

Neal


 

-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Reedy
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:28 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: IMPORTANT! FROM THE LIST ADMIN, off topic
messages, please read!

Hi Neal,

I do understand your questionsand you are doing fine.  There are many
questions that may seem of topic, but are Voiceover related and then there
are some questions which are clearly off topic.  If a question is clearly of
topic and one still needs an answer to it, just put, "OT" in the subject
line.  I am trying to answer in a general way.  In short, anything that
helps some one to choose the right MAC, or questions about learning an App
are fair game, not to exclude other subjects.  We have covered sound, Word
processing and the list goes on and we want to deal with these and more.

Does this help any at all.

Keith Reedy
On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:03 PM, Neal Ewers wrote:

> Keith, Thanks, I understand what you are trying to do and my question 
> was not meant to be negative in any way, but this does raise a more 
> general issue.  Some of the questions people ask on this list have as 
> much to do
> with learning the Mac as they do with the specifics of VoiceOver.   
> Given
> that many of us are on this Mac learning curve, would you suggest that 
> we find another list on which to ask more general Mac questions?  If 
> so, can you direct me to such a list?
>
> Please understand, I am not trying to be picky here, I am, however, 
> trying to give you what you want, but that requires asking a few 
> questions.
>
> Neal
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Reedy
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:58 PM
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: IMPORTANT! FROM THE LIST ADMIN, off topic 
> messages, please read!
>
> Hi Neal,
>
> As for me, I would think that this is a Voiceover question.
>
> Neal, I don't want to drive this thing in to the ground, I am just 
> trying to get us all to filter our messages before they go out on the 
> list, ok?
>
> Keith Reedy
>
>
> On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Neal Ewers wrote:
>
>> Hi Keith.  It seems to me that, especially for beginners like myself, 
>> it is sometimes hard to know if you are asking a VoiceOver question 
>> as apposed to a general Mac question.  Take my following post for 
>> example.
>>
>>
>> Hi all,  Do I just have a slow computer?  On the BCT page, if I press 
>> control option command H to go to headers, it takes about 5 seconds 
>> to get to each header.  When I try to bring up a link list, it takes 
>> about 30 seconds.  Anyone else have this problem?  I'm guessing my 
>> Mac Mini is not the fastest kid on the planet?  Thanks.  And thanks 
>> for the help on finding the preferences.
>>
>> Neal
>>
>> Now, I have no clue if this is caused by VoiceOver, or if it is a 
>> general Mac question.  I would certainly agree that it doesn't teach 
>> people about using VoiceOver directly, but if there are problems 
>> regarding slow- downs that perhaps result  when using VoiceOver, this 
>> is, I think, a question that VoiceOver users need to know.
>>
>> So, tell me where the thin line is here and I will be happy to abide.
>>
>> Thanks for dealing with this issue.
>>
>> Neal
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Reedy
>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:41 PM
>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [macvoiceover] IMPORTANT! FROM THE LIST ADMIN, off topic 
>> messages, please read!
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Boy, I hate to write these kind of messages.
>>
>> Last week we had several hundred messages come over the list and 
>> several of them according to the list guidelines were off topic.
>>
>> First of all, lets take a look at what we are trying to do with this 
>> list and that is to learn and USE Voiceover with the MAC, so when you 
>> write your message, ask your self, does this have anything to do with 
>> learning and using Voiceover with the MAC? If it does not, please put 
>> the letters "OT"
>> for offtopic, in the subject line, so that the rest of us can choose 
>> to read it or not.
>>
>> Folks, please help me with this.  This list has become a great place 
>> to learn about Voiceover, but, we can't learn with helpful messages 
>> intermixed with off topic messages.
>>
>> This list will soon reach 100 members and we can be a help to many if 
>> we will just stay with in the guidelines.
>>
>> Thank you so much.
>>
>> Keith Reedy, list admin
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