I share your dread but grew up doing things similar. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Windels" <william.windels@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: How about a guide? yeah, you can but I find such way of working not confortable at all... ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 10:42 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: How about a guide? > no, you can count clicks and memorize menus. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Windels" <william.windels@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 4:42 PM > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: How about a guide? > > > ok, you can use it as storage device, I agree but, you can not handle the > functions and menus to play music, I think. > Is this right? > > To use it only as storrage-device, it like me a litle bit expensive > > and, if it doesn't talk and you can not feel the keys on the traditional > ipod, on which way is it accessible? > > I am very curious > William > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 10:33 PM > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: How about a guide? > > >> IPod is usable, it just doesn't talk. It can be loaded accessibly as >> well. >> There is a podcast on it at: >> http://www.screenlessswitchers.com but I don't think anyone has actually >> done an archived demo. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "William Windels" <william.windels@xxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 4:32 PM >> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: How about a guide? >> >> >> sorry but what is the sence for such guide? >> Because, so far as I know, the traditional Ipod is totally inaccessible >> for >> blind people? >> or not? >> >> best regards, >> William >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jeffrey Shockley" <jawswizard@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 10:21 PM >> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: How about a guide? >> >> >>> Sounds neat, and like a good idea. >>> >>> Jeffrey >>> >>> Jacob Schmude wrote: >>>> Hi Keith >>>> Since you've brought up the subject of guides, would anyone like a >>>> series >>>> of guides dealing with the iPod? Basic things such as how to work it, >>>> how >>>> to set it up properly with iTunes and Voiceover, etc, as well as some >>>> slightly more advanced topics such as the settings menus, and building >>>> good-quality iPod format audio books? ? I could put them up on >>>> icanworkthisthing.com and I'll make them if anyone wants them. The ones >>>> I'd make would be for the iPod Classic 80gb as that's what I have, but >>>> would probably work for the Video and Nanos as well for the most part. >>>> These guides would not deal with Rockbox, but rather the genuine iPod >>>> firmware. >>>> >>>> Anyone interested in such a thing? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 8, 2008, at 11:28, Keith Reedy wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi folks, >>>>> >>>>> I know that some of you have special interest in a peace of software, >>>>> so, how about writing a small how-to-guide on how to work it. >>>>> >>>>> Something like this. >>>>> >>>>> 1 Open up a new file in your word processer and write it all down. >>>>> 2 after you have a way to do it, check your method, >>>>> 3 Check your method. >>>>> 4 paist it in to an e-mail and send it to the list. >>>>> Who knows, you mite want your guide to be a part of the growing list >>>>> of >>>>> list and guides at, >>>>> www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>> under >>>>> MAC with Voiceover. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, this will be fun for all of us. >>>>> >>>>> Keith Reedy >>>>>> >>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link >>>>>> below. >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the >>>>>> Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>> >>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>> >>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the >>>>> Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>> >>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - >>> Release >>> Date: 7/06/2008 11:17 >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >> >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 7/06/2008 >> 11:17 >> >> > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 7/06/2008 > 11:17 > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >