Hi, don't use tab for navigating controls. I would, and do, use VO command J. This is the actual VO command to navigate to the next control. This is way more predictable than tab. hth Ricardo Walker ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Aug 9, 2012, at 5:24 AM, Ashley <ash.cox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > My thoughts exactly. It would be nice if there was 1 way of doing things. > I've also noticed that tabbing through controls isn't as consistent as it > could be, which is something I'd like to see fixed - I don't always want to > have to keep interacting with everything just to access, say, an item in a > table. > > On 08/08/2012 23:49, Ian Edwards wrote: >> A big frustration in transitioning to Mac and VO for me is how navigating >> wroks differently in different situations. On my Macbook Air, I press Shift >> VO Function left arrow to to to the top of my in-box list in Mail. For the >> bottom of the list it's Shift VO Function right arrow. Sounds like a lot, >> but the keys are all right together. Same commands work on a web page. Note, >> you need to be interacting with the list for the in-box commands to work. >> >> In a document some of the standard OSX commands work independently. This >> includes Command up and down arrows for top and bottom of document, command >> left and right arrows for beginning and end of line. Page up and down don't >> seem to work in conjunction with VO consitently. It works in Pages, but not >> always in Text Edit, and nobody has been able to explain why it works >> sometimes and sometimes not. >> >> Anyone know about jumping to the top of a finder list? >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Ian >> On 2012-08-08, at 4:36 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter <markbaxter38@xxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >>> Function VO Left or Right arrows will take you to the top left or bottom >>> right corner of the--whatever--list, table, … I don't believe this works in >>> TextEdit, but it does in Mail. >>> >>> >>> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter >>> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>> • MSN: BurningHawk1969@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> • My home page: >>> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>> >>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>> >>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface >> at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >