[macvoiceover] Re: Fw: interacting with links in Safari

  • From: "Ron J." <ganahee@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:26:59 -0500

Hi Chris, Ron here.
You're asking about grouping items on web pages? Well, to get to the VoiceOver Utility, simply hold down the VO Keys (Control & Option), and press the F8 key. This will bring up the ?VoiceOver Utility.
Once in the utility, there's a row of tabs across the top of the screen. You want to VO Right Arrow to the one called Navigation, then do VO-Space on it. There should be checkboxes for VoiceOver Cursor to newly loaded web page, group items on web pages, Navigate images, etc. You want to check the item, "Group Items on Web Pages".
Once you've selected that item, all items will be grouped on the web pages you navigate to, and they'll all be spoken as one block, which will end with "Group".
This should make it easier for you to navigate sites using VO, because, for example, many sites put their navigation links in one place, say the top of the page, and you can simply skip over them as one block, instead of having to navigate through each one, individually.
As I recall, there is *no* heading navigation in Tiger - only in Leopard. That said, in Safari 3, under Tiger, headings are voiced as headings, but their levels aren't voiced, as they are in Leopard (i.e. Heading Level 1, 2, 3, etc.) 

        Does this help at all?
BTW, if you ever wanna chat with me about VO, or anything else, you're welcome to contact me on Skype! My SkypeName is: Ganahee. 

Take care!

Ron

On Jul 7, 2008, at 9:01 PM, Chris Gilland Laptop wrote:


ok, so I can't I assume jump from heading to heading?
I still dont follow what the option does to group html content. can I have an example from someone please? 

Chris.


----- Original Message -----
From: Babcock, Michael Alex
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:30 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Fw: interacting with links in Safari
you do have to interact with each frame, and there isn't even a way in leopard to skip past all links. 
On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:23 PM, Chris Gilland Laptop wrote:
OK, I understand. I assume this is a Leopard thing? BTW, is there, now that I'm finally! getting the hang a things, is there a way, remember: in Tiger here, not Leopard, to jump past linked text to the main content of a page? Finally if a page has multi frames, how's voice over gonna handle that. Do I have to interact with each individual frame? 

Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" <windowbridge@xxxxxxx > 
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:21 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Fw: interacting with links in Safari




On Jul 7, 2008, at 7:01 PM, Chris Gilland Laptop wrote:
I guess I dont know why it would be so good to be able to look inside elements like that. Can yu give me a for instance, senario, to show me where this would be really good? 

Here's one.
There's a link, and it's called go2zoo.com.
Ok, now, I'm trying to tell someone else in my house what link to go to. Well, is it the number 2, is it the word to with a single o, is it the word too with double o, or is it spelled with a u. No way to know without being able to interact with the link to see how it's spelled. And, what if there was a dash or underscore in the name of the link, if you had punctuation turned down or off, just reading the link as you vo across it would never tell you that little piece of information. 



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