[macvoiceover] Re: Configuring Voiceover to work with Snow Lepard
- From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
- To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:45:12 -0500
Well that is great. Now will it let you configure for each app?
Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
joeplummer@xxxxxxx
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From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ignasi Cambra
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 3:23 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Configuring Voiceover to work with Snow Lepard
Actually snow leopard gives you the choice of automatically interacting with
elements when tabbing into them.
On Dec 12, 2009, at 6:49 AM, Joe Plummer wrote:
> Yes, but it would be nice if they would give you a choice to do it
> like manual or auto! This goes for all Scream readers not just talking
about VO..
> Just some of my thoughts.
>
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> Sign,
> JP ( Joe Plummer)
> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Foret jr
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:28 PM
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Configuring Voiceover to work with Snow
> Lepard
>
> Well, Tony, to get to your first question first. It is not, (strictly
> speaking) necessary to change any Voice Over settings to make it work
> properly. I'm still using the configuration that came right out of
> the box, with only one change; and that, even though it is not
> necessary, is to turn off the tutorial instructions which
> automatically tell you how to deal with a button or control upon which you
land.
>
> Now, why interact with something? Easy. Think of the things in your
> new Mac as a bunch of boxes. Now, Voice Over Focuses your attention
> on the big boxes first. For example, I press enter to read a new
> message; but, suppose I want to click on a link in that message?
> Well, I need to then focus on the text of that message. So, when I
> interact with it, I'm telling Voice OVer that I want and or need to
> pay attention more tightly to this certain area; in this case, the
> text. So, I interact with it. When I'm done, I can then stop interacting
with it and focus back on the larger area.
> Here's a physical compares which might help you understand the concept
> a little better. Let's say someone gives you a Christmas present in a
> big box. When you open it, you discover that they've gone and put it
> inside a smaller box. Well, of course, when you finally get down to
> the smallest box, there's the present itself. YOu see? You had to
> get through all those boxes to get to the thing itself. Windows did
> the same thing; but, when we used windows we were never aware of it
> because it was hidden from us. That's the thing I don't like about
> Windows Screen readers. They have a nasty way of hiding what Windows
> is really doing; Window-Eyes less than JAWS though. With the Mac and
Voice Over, no hiding.
>
> HTH.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray!!!
>
> Now a Mac User!!!
>
> Phone:
> +1 (985) 360-3614
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> E-mail:
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> Skype Name:
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>
> On Dec 11, 2009, at 7:40 PM, blind Treasures wrote:
>
> HI, First I want to thank everyone again for their help with my
> getting voiceover up and running on my new IMac. Being a newbie I'm
> sure these questions have been asked before so bare with me. I'm so
> excited about learning this new system it is killing me. <smile> Can
> someone tell me what the best configuration settings for voiceover
> which will make it work best with snow leopard? I know I read
> something somewhere which told about a few settings that need to be
changed or set.
> Lastly, this is probably a stupid question but here it goes anyway.
> Why is it necessary to interact with certain elements on the screen?
> Like with the menu bar, why can't you just move left and right and up
> and down without interacting with it first? What things need to be
interacted with first?
> Thanks in advance for your expert help.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
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