Ben, i am on an imac desktop, not ios, if that is what you are referring to.
i am not familiar with ios so i guess there are going to be a few new items to
get to know.
K.
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On 16/12/2020, at 5:50 PM, Benjamin Blatter <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This announcement „Action available“ can be turned off or made available as
audio signal like three very fast knocks in the voiceover utility program
under verbosity, „If an object has it’s own actions“.
Ben
Am 16.12.2020 um 05:45 schrieb CJ Daniel <cj_daniel@xxxxxxx>:
Kelvin,
That’s the equivalent of having an item selected in IOS & then sliding your
finger down to access the menu or “actions” for that item. Like clearing a
message off the top of your phone’s screen. There are some similarities
between the “actions” & the “context menu.” And in fact, some of the
options in both can be repeated. However, each of those menus, also,
contain varied or different options. It’s one of the ways that Apple is
trying to mirror the OS experience to the IOS environment. I suspect, over
time, that OS will become more & more aligned with IOS. Makes sense to me.
Anyway, hope this helps,
CJ
On Dec 15, 2020, at 2:34 PM, Kelvin Falconer <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
a new announcement i am getting is 'actions available'.
not sure what this is about yet, any thoughts ?
happens in finder, numbers, still observing.
K.
I float through Time and Space like a treeless leaf.
On 15/12/2020, at 7:44 PM, Kelvin Falconer <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
i notice we now have a new tool in the vo utility, vo recognition ,
description of images.
has anybody used this, is it useful ?
K.
I float through Time and Space like a treeless leaf.
On 15/12/2020, at 7:29 PM, Kelvin Falconer <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
previously in catalina i used to have trouble accessing menu extras, only
one menu would show and blue tooth would not open correctly. Now menu
extras is accessible from any application, notifications, as mentioned
does not show but vo n is a good shortcut.
no issues with mail as yet.
K.
I float through Time and Space like a treeless leaf.
On 15/12/2020, at 7:11 PM, CJ Daniel <cj_daniel@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Kelvin,
That's great! I didn't run in to the password problem you describe.
But, YMMV. The thing that really bugs me is Mail inconsistancies.
Basic operation is fine. But, the "All In-Boxes" feature can be a
little funny. Also, I don't like that archived files show up in the
folders I've established on my Mac for storage & in the general archive
folder for each account. Other than that, I guess it's okay.
Anyway, I wish you the best of luck,
CJ
On 12/14/20, 10:38 PM, "Kelvin Falconer"
<macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
OK, upgrade done, had to get sighted assistance when reqquested to enter
app store password, vo did not inform me of what was on the screen.
So far so good, new Logic update also but Logic runs fine.
Bunch of new system sounds to get used to.
Brave browser opens and appears to be in good shape.
K.
I float through Time and Space like a treeless leaf.
On 15/12/2020, at 5:12 PM, CJ Daniel <cj_daniel@xxxxxxx> wrote:
You’re welcome,
But, remember I haven’t had much time to use the latest version of
Logic with Big Sur. Can’t test to it’s cooperative spirit with
VoiceOver. Just a mention, as I know that’s important to many on this
list.
Otherwise, enjoy,
CJ
On Dec 14, 2020, at 11:20 AM, Kelvin Falconer
<tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
thanks CJ, i have not heard any negatives so will plan to update.
K.
I float through Time and Space like a treeless leaf.
On 15/12/2020, at 4:43 AM, CJ Daniel <cj_daniel@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Kelvin,
I’ve experienced some anomalies. Mostly, small & inconsequential.
The notifications interaction can be hit-&-miss. But over all, I’m
glad I did it. The alignment between OS & IOS is interesting &
promising. I know you’re experienced enough to backup for a
potential restore, so I won’t belabor that point. In short, I think
you’d be okay. But, your mileage may vary. I just decided to take
the plunge & nothing’s blown up.
All the best,
CJ
On Dec 13, 2020, at 7:18 PM, Kelvin Falconer
<tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
CJ and others, are you confident with big sur, would you recommend
upgrading ?
K.
I float through Time and Space like a treeless leaf.
On 14/12/2020, at 3:03 PM, CJ Daniel <cj_daniel@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Yeah,
Like I said, their actually different. Try VO-Command-Space on an
item & then try VO-Shift-M & you’ll find they’re are some
similarities & some differences. I’ve found, over-all, that I like
Big Sur. But, there are some anomalies.
Best of luck & Merry Christmas, Happy Honica or whatever you
celebrate,
CJ
On Dec 13, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Mark Baxter <markbaxter38@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Thanks, CJ. Since I got a BT keyboard for my iPhone, the only time
I use touch screen commands if when I’m out and about and can’t
bring the keyboard with me. VO Shift M opens the context menu, at
least most times, in IOS.
—Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Twitter: @MarkBurningHawk
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 13, 2020, at 4:59 PM, CJ Daniel <cj_daniel@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Mark,
The VO-Command-SpaceBar is now the equivalent of sliding one
finger down on a selected item to open the “Actions menu” in IOS.
It’s similar to a Right Mouse click or VO-Shift-Down arrow.
But, it’s not, actually, the context menu. The options are
somewhat different. It is, in fact, part of the effort to bring
Mac’s OS more in line with Ios’s presentation.
Hope this helps the learning curve,
CJ
On Dec 13, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Mark Baxter
<markbaxter38@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks, Suzanne! I’ll try that. VO Command Space was a “mouse
click,” a while back; maybe that’s why that works. I was also
going to experiment to see if either track pad or keyboard
commander could be set up to give a shortcut. I love my iPHone,
and use the touch screen interface quite confidently, but
because I type so fast and grew up memorizing keyboard commands,
I haven’t even used the track pad on my MacBook Air, and keep
the commander off, and just use the keyboard for everything.
—Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Twitter: @MarkBurningHawk
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 13, 2020, at 4:23 PM, Suzanne Erb <suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi,
Have you tried VO plus n? Sometimes that works for me.
I found this out by speaking with Apple Accessibility. The guy
I spoke with, Justin, was very much on the ball! Notification
Center has been completely revamped and it is still a little
buggy. Sometimes, if you’re in a list of notifications, if you
hit VO plus Command plus Space, you can go down a menu, if you
need to make a menu selection.
Good luck.
Suzanne
On Dec 12, 2020, at 21:03, Mark Baxter
<markbaxter38@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I’m sure this is a simple fix, but I’m not able to access
Notification Center from the Menu Extras section in Big Sur.
Only way I’ve found it is through Preferences, but is there a
simpler way to do it? Same issue with battery charge
status—it’s not showing in Menu Extras. Also, none of my
sounds are playing.
Any fixes for these minor issues?
Thanks.
—Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Twitter: @MarkBurningHawk
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