[mac4theblind] Re: when checking Voiceover "to be controlled by apple scripts", are there any that come with it by default?

  • From: John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:06:29 -0500

    That's my fault, Daniel.  I missed that step in explaining the creation of 
the shortcut.  My apologies.  That's what happens sometimes when you are flying 
through messages and firing off responses in succession.

    You need to VO-space on the, add, button in keyboard commander in the table 
of commands to be able to add another one.  The edit box will only accept 
single letter or shifted letter commands because this is what is used with the 
right or left option key.  Then, you must go to the menu and VO-space on it to 
choose the associated command for the shortcut letter.  You can expand the list 
from the menu with the right arrow like in any typical menu.




Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com


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On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:

> Good news John, I have now successfully created and now have the battery 
> script running! 
> Funny when you said about the script being downloaded and it wasn't till 
> after I sent my previous email asking for help that I checked the download 
> folder and found it there. But help was still needed because after I placed 
> it into the script folder tried the command didn't work then placed it into 
> the Voiceover folder it still didn't work. So what did I do your wondering. 
> Well I had a closer look at the scripts that were already created and 
> interacted with them. This didn't get me any further so I went to the add 
> button and found a blank added to the list. So I interacted with that one and 
> vo right. Now this is the funny part. As I was exploring what was here I 
> completely ignored the "menu button". Talk about being intimidated which by 
> the way all your advice is encouraging. So anyway after I VO spaced on that 
> button everything else slotted into place. Find the script add it and the 
> only thing I didn't know was the blank. So I tried calling it "Battery 
> Status". Then got a dialog box saying only one letter will do. So that was 
> the last part of the puzzle just called it B and bang! the script/keystroke 
> worked! 
> 
> I just wanted to share my experience with you and everyone else who might 
> read this post because in my case with your feedback explaining this and that 
> at times its just one little step I ignored and upon remembering what it was, 
> everything else was easy. I guess what I'm trying to say is know your 
> screenreader well and listen to every detail it gives you so you don't make 
> any mistakes. 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Daniel                    
> On 28 Jan 2012, at 18:55, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>    The important thing is not to get overwhelmed.  Learning the Mac is like 
>> any other new task.  It's a process that you have to take at your own pace.
>> 
>>    I would try to learn some VoiceOver basics first.  Use the quick start 
>> guide with control-option-command-F8 and go through that entirely to get 
>> comfortable with VoiceOver basics.
>> 
>>    Once you do that, make your goals small at first.  Pick an application to 
>> start with, like Mail or Text Edit, and try to get familiar with it using 
>> what you have learned with VoiceOver.
>> 
>>    Study the material that is on my website and in many other places and 
>> listen to the podcasts that are available.  Vision Australia is a good place 
>> to start, as well as those on the Blind Cool Tech website.  I have some Lion 
>> basics demonstrations in my demonstrations section.
>> 
>> 
>>   Just keep in mind that every little battle you win is one step in the 
>> right direction.  Just don't let yourself get flustered.  If you start to 
>> feel frustrated, walk away from the Mac for a time and come back when you 
>> clear your mind.
>> 
>>  If you are a Windows user, do your best to separate your thinking from the 
>> Windows screen reader way of doing things.  Yes, if similar concepts help 
>> you get things straight in your mind, that's fine, but don't think VoiceOver 
>> will or should act like JAWS or Window-Eyes and that the Mac OS is like 
>> Windows.  This attachment will only make the learning process more difficult 
>> and slow your progress significantly.  Trust me on that, as I was there.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 12:38 AM, Catnip wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh God!  I'm reading all your tips, tricks and problems and still sitting 
>>> here with the OSX lion and have no idea how or where to start.  So just 
>>> plunge in?  Would that be your suggestion?
>>> 
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