[mac4theblind] Re: what do we do about productivity on the mac?
- From: David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 14:27:37 -0400
Microsoft office needs to be made accessible because it is too entrenched in
the corporate world to ignore and as long as it can be used on other platforms
accessibly, blind folks using the mac will be left out in the cold. Serious
productivity in the workplace cannot move forward without it.
Iwork leaves a lot to be desired even without accessibility considerations.
On Sep 1, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
Actually we all contacted Microsoft on there page regarding microsoft for the
mac in late 2007 or 8, and they just shrugged os off. Same thing happened with
Microsoft for the mac this year when they came out with a new version. I'm not
one normally to give up but I am in this case as I'm not willing to pay over
$400 for something I can get for $20 or less at the M.A.S If pages and numbers
were made a bit more useable, and I think it will, I think we can have the
equivalent of a product for a lot less of the price.
On Sep 1, 2011, at 9:07 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
> I remember the days before accessibility when computers were just black boxes
> to us and how long and tortuous the road to accessibility was. We live in a
> similar time but the difference is that at least some accessibility is
> already in place. That accessibility though is old and tired and even though
> it's been bandaided and patched, sooner or later, it will no longer serve so
> we need to be certain that accessibility continues and this is where the mac
> comes in.
>
> Some say that ios or some other similar tiny platform will rule the day and
> although may eventually be the case, we still have a gap that needs to be
> filled and in these days of a shrinking economy and dwindling resources, a
> golden opportunity exists for mac os to shine forth in accessibility.
>
> On Sep 1, 2011, at 11:32 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>
> Just us chickens. we need to generate interest in examining applications and
> reporting findings to developpers mainly in the cases of iwork and office to
> apple and microsoft respectively.
>
> On Sep 1, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Gaylen Floy wrote:
>
> What course of action is available to us? Is there an affiliate of the two
> consumer organizations that tackles this kind of problem?
>
> Gaylen Floy, Federal Way, Washington
>
>
> spreadsheets and documents and presentations, oh my!
>
> Many blind folk are successfully employed for performing tasks which involve
> the above and have been for many years. Few if any though are using the mac
> for many reasons but I want to focus on moving forward in areas in which we
> can move forward and to focus your attention and seek your assistance with
> those.
>
> We need gallant folk to step up to Microsoft and shout out that office needs
> to be made accessible in order that the market for blind employees will be
> wider. To do this, folk must provide concrete detailed and factual
> information about the issues of using Microsoft office on the mac. You can
> even find some good stuff that is already written and submit it to them. I
> don't have a handle on the Microsoft stream and cannot purchase the product
> so cannot help directly but am willing to help in any other way I can.
>
> We need to provide solid feedback to apple on issues related to IWork from a
> productivity standpoint. Some employers will be willing to accept a blind
> person with a mac since we can export office formats and they would be
> willing to mix systems if they are able.
>
> We need to locate employers willing to work with us and rehab or other
> agencies who are willing to take on the challenge if for nothing less than
> the potential cost savings.
>
> I know that there are a myriad of issues which we face with regard to this
> ultimate goal of prominent positioning of mac in the work place of the
> blind, but if we work together, perhaps we can move forward and provide
> assistance in this important effort.
>
> I know that there are efforts ongoing at apple and lots of feedback coming
> to them which they are paying attention to and which is helping to guide
> them toward better accessibility. I'd like though to discuss experiences
> and desires and perhaps translate some of those into meaningful dialog with
> apple and microsoft.
>
> I hope you will attend to this important topic with me and I hope I've not
> overstepped any bounds as an unintended consequence of this letter.
>
> All the best.
>
> --
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