[mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full again

  • From: John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:51:08 -0400

    I don't think there were any announced VoiceOver improvements or additions 
in the latest OS upgrade.  I don't think we will see anything that major until 
Lion is released in the summer.

Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.macfortheblind.com

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT

On Mar 23, 2011, at 12:43 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> A bit. everything seems a bit more snapper and there were I believe some 
> security holes fixed as usual. I don't see any access improvements like the 
> voice over hands not beeing fixed.
> Sarah Alawami
> 
> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to 
> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me 
> my info is below.
> 
> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
> 
> website: http://music.marrie.org
> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
> 
> On Mar 22, 2011, at 7:11 PM, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>   Was there any improvements with the OS upgrade?  Just out of curiosity.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2011, at 9:46 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Well I tried a restore and that failed. the restore went ok but  my mail i 
>>> still slow my finder seems to be ok but I don't want to reinstall mail. I 
>>> will though fi that's what it takes. Blah. I just don't see why it is not 
>>> happening in the other account just this one. OH well. I'll try a reinstall 
>>> this week and see if that helps. I know it will beu why my computer acts 
>>> like that when my start up disk is full and why it continues when it is not 
>>> is a mystery. Actually I have someone else who is experiencing the same 
>>> isue as well his start up disk got full and he emptied it and now it is 
>>> acting  like mine.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 3:09 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Do you have an Apple Store nearby?  It might be worth a trip there.  
>>>> Maybe, sitting down with someone and showing them what you are 
>>>> experiencing would help.
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>> 
>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> except now I have 120gb free and  tha'ts plenty of space for my system to 
>>>>> do what it needs to so something else is deeper in the problem. I don't 
>>>>> know and I  get the feelign this apple superviser is off his rocker by 
>>>>> just a bit.
>>>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 11:45 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It just doesn't make sense that one user account would have issues over 
>>>>>> another.  Obviously, anything is possible in the world of computers, but 
>>>>>> there has to be some reason for this.  A disk becoming full should, as I 
>>>>>> said, become an issue when you are topping it out and there isn't enough 
>>>>>> room for the system to perform its various tasks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>> Director
>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No I have all of the programs I usually install and all went well until 
>>>>>>> my start up disk went full. I hve about 120 gigs free as of now and it 
>>>>>>> is still doing that. In fact my mail yesterday suddenly crashed and 
>>>>>>> quit and finder went crazy but in the other account it went smooth.
>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:43 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That's interesting.  Why would another account not be a problem?  It 
>>>>>>>> might be something installed, I guess.  Please keep us posted.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> No there solution for now was to create a test account with admin 
>>>>>>>>> rights. that seems to be goign bery well and very smooth except I 
>>>>>>>>> can't access my timke machine to get at my main account and i can't 
>>>>>>>>> get at my main account while loged in to my test admin account. it 
>>>>>>>>> seels more stable to. no slow downs of finder and mail.
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:34 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So you just reinstalled again?  Was that their solution?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2011, at 7:27 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> WellI tested and am still testing in my new account and it seems to 
>>>>>>>>>>> run a lot faster and I've run it for hours with out the  slow 
>>>>>>>>>>> downs. so I don't know what to do from here. I don't know what the 
>>>>>>>>>>> apple adviser will suggest but i should not need to  reinstall 
>>>>>>>>>>> every time my start up disk gets full which it will until I get 
>>>>>>>>>>> myself an external drive in about a month..
>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to 
>>>>>>>>>>> contact me my info is below.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:27 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, so this more strongly leads me to believe that this might be a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware issue.  If you have tried installing the OS again, it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> could only be that.  However, if you have your material all backed 
>>>>>>>>>>>> up and have not done a reinstall, I'd do a complete wipe and then 
>>>>>>>>>>>> install the OS from scratch.  After that, move your stuff over.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeha i tried searching google but there were snobish forum 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> replies talkign about osx and how it really did not need to be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintained and all of them said to do repair permitions. I've 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been searching this for months and no luck.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:07 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, speak to an Apple tech support person or do some serious 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> searching on Google.  Maybe, on of the Mac forums might have a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good suggestion.  Also, on the Apple website, do a search in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support to find out if there are any knowledge base articles of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relevance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No it should not. If I open let' say 1 or even 4 messages at a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time in mail,  my mail acts like it  wants to freeze. it is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between 1 and 2 seconds  or maybe a bit more until I hear the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing window soundd. and even vo right arrowing is causing  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail or finder to be busy in list mode.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, like I said, this might be a question for Apple support. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  To me, it should not be behaving like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The thing is only a year old. Only finder and mail seem to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow to a crawl. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/03/2011, at 9:41, John Panarese 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even with those size files, the entire system shouldn't be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slowing down like that.  Honestly, I am out of ideas.  There 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is probably something obvious that is being missed, but I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would really contact the local Apple Store or call Apple.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How old is this machine?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I ran onyx and it does not seem to have worked. I also 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ran a repair disk and an disk utility and no go. I also 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repaired permitions. it sucks tha tonly files under 20 mb 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are defraged. My work has to have me work with files that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are hundreds of mb big and sometimes even about a gig for a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:14 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep us posted, Sarah.  When all else fails, a call to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple support or a visit to an Apple Store is always an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also run cached out. spelled it wrong  but for those 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that need something else it's a good good tool. I'll try 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> onyx and see if it fixes it. Maybe the third time will be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a chrm. I'm frustrated by tghis!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:50 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is a good application.  There are utilities in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there worth running and scheduling.  Clearing the cache 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and such.  I use Cocktail, but it's the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd still run a disk permissions repair off of your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install disk for the heck of it as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked all of this and it seems to be speeding up 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slowly but this is getting rediculous. I have not yet 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run permitions again. well I did a few weeks ago but I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to get back inthe habit. I wonder what onyx will 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do for me lol! that is a pretty good suite of stuff to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:36 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, this shouldn't be happening with a Mac.  You 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are not using that much disk space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other ideas would be running a disk permissions check 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Utilities off of your install disk.  Also, check 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activity monitor to see if anything is running that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not aware of.  Check to see if you have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything starting up with the system in your login 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> area of system preferences under Accounts.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I disabled the dash board as I don't know how to use 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. I have 4 gigs of ram on this thing and I do empty 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my trash. the last time I repaired permitions it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked, for about 10 minutes and then it  went back 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to slowness. that was a few months ago when this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:04 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can try running permissions first.  See if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that helps.  Also, make sure you don't have anything 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eating your processor power.  It's not as big a deal 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a Mac, but how much RAM to you have?  Also, make 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure you empty the trash and you don't have open 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> widgets running in background.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of my stuff is projects I do for  other people 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are huge up to 3 or 4 gigs in size.  OH fun! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but yeah this is ridiculous. I thought that  it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would have defraged itself by now but I'l be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patient.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 6:15 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a lot of downloaded material.  Yes, an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> external drive to back it all up and also 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminating anything not important.  I have had my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MBP for two years and I haven't filled forty 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> percent of the HD yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Bubba wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep that was what I thought. This person must 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really have a lot of stuff on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her HD. It might be time to get a external HD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sign,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bubba
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of John Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 7:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: start up disk full 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean your actual hard drive?  How did you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fill it up so much?  A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive filling up shouldn't slow a system down 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until you have really filled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it beyond 75 percent capasity from personal 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean at the time my start up disk was a 0 kb 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and before then everythign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was slowing down to a crawl well finder and mail 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mainly. Now  I'm at 91 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so out of 250 gigs free and everythign is still 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:23 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by full startup disk?  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VOICEOVER TRAINING AND 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Sarah Alawami 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok once again I have a full start up disk. If 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I clear at least half of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that my mail and finder are still as slow as ever 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in rendering tables and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff in the message list views and in list mode 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in finder. How can I make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things faster with out reinstalling? I don't want 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to go that rout. Not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. I have too much to focus on this week with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mid terms coming up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update: I've now freed up to 93 gigs of space 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the darned thing is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still slow especially in the mail program at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rendering the table for my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages when I'm done reading a few. How can I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you  need an edit  done on a small project 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info. If you need to contact me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my info is below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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