I just don't understand how command-3 or column view in other words can produce such chatter as you describe. It only announces the names of the items for me. On Sep 23, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Justin Harford wrote: Okay. I have my verbosity default set to lo. I have some customized options set to high, web elements like buttons, check boxes, headings, and links, but everything else is set to low. Justin El 23-09-2011, a las 9:46, David Hilbert Poehlman escribió: > I use medium verbosity. > > On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:10 PM, Justin Harford wrote: > > Interesting. I find when a new folder opens in list view, it is not quite as > verbos for me. I actually tried to reduce the verbosity, and had no success. > I'm not sure which part of verbosity I would need to adjust. > > Later > El 22-09-2011, a las 20:04, David Hilbert Poehlman escribió: > >> interesting, I use column view because list view is too verbose. you know, >> you can tame the verbosity. >> >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 10:36 PM, Justin Harford wrote: >> >> Hi there >> >> I remember the good days of Tiger and Leopard when I could fly through the >> folders with column view. I had the mussel memory in my fingers pretty much >> worked out so that when I knew the folder that I wanted, I would shoot level >> past level. Once I remember a friend commented how the folders just flew by >> as though it were scroll view. Ah such fine days they were, but I remember >> with the added verbosity in Snow Leopard I had to give that up for list >> view. >> >> Basically the problem that I have had lately with it is when I go into a >> folder in column view, it wants to read something like (list one item >> selected) or something like that, which basically slows me down. When I used >> to go to a new folder, the first thing I heard and cared to hear was the >> name of the folder that my cursor was focused over, but now I have to wait >> something like two seconds for that information, which slows me down quite a >> bit. I wonder if anyone ever figured out how to make it so VO stops >> announcing a new list view every time I arrow into a new folder? >> >> It would be nice to start using column view like I used to, but so far I am >> finding that list view is more efficient. >> >> Later >> Justin Harford >> El 22-09-2011, a las 11:48, John Panarese escribió: >> >>> You can do it from the view menu in Finder or use command-1 for icon, >>> command-2 for list, command-3 for column or command-4 for Cover Flow views. >>> You must have a finder window open, though. >>> >>> >>> Take Care >>> >>> John D. Panarese >>> Director >>> Mac for the Blind >>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> http://www.macfortheblind.com >>> >>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 10:27 AM, cjackson102@xxxxxxx wrote: >>> >>>> yes they were what I was doing is I connected my mac to my windows pc so I >>>> could see my external hard drives also can you tell me how to change views >>>> ---- David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> You may have better luck with a different view. the desktop view cannot >>>>> be changed but accept for the applications folder I use my finder in >>>>> column view. >>>>> >>>>> Also, take a look through finder preferences and turn off all the >>>>> visuals. when you are in a finder window, press command-, to get to >>>>> preferences >>>>> you'll want to uncheck "springloaded folders" in general and also in >>>>> general unchanything that does not need to appear on your desktop. >>>>> >>>>> Do all finder windows go busy? I cannot duplicate your issue unless I am >>>>> in something huge. >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 7:00 AM, curtis jackson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello I am running lion using voice over and it seems that every time I >>>>> open >>>>> the finder it always says busy a lot but whenever I go some where else on >>>>> the machine it doesn't do that can anyone give me any ideas on why that >>>>> might be I'm still trying to get the hang of this stuff slowly but surely >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Justin Harford >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 8:44 PM >>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: accessing the mac HD >>>>> >>>>> No problem. >>>>> >>>>> cmd shift + >>>>> >>>>> c for computer >>>>> h for home >>>>> a for applications >>>>> u for utilities >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Justin Harford >>>>> >>>>> El 19-09-2011, a las 14:36, <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió: >>>>> >>>>>> Again, thank you Dustin! All these commands are great. Now, to try and >>>>> find a good way to commit them to memory. LOL. One thing at a time I >>>>> guess... >>>>>> >>>>>> Scott >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Harford" >>>>>> <blindstein@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:16 PM >>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: accessing the mac HD >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I find that command shift a is great for accessing apps, command shift c >>>>> for hard drive and network sources, command shift h for home, command >>>>> shift >>>>> u for utilities. >>>>>> >>>>>> I never even navigate around my desktop. Too clunky. >>>>>> >>>>>> Justin >>>>>> El 19-09-2011, a las 4:07, David Hilbert Poehlman escribió: >>>>>> >>>>>>> better, directly access the applications folder with command-a. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:10 AM, <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm back with probably another question that logic somewhere would >>>>> probably dictate. >>>>>>> In his podcast, Mike accesses apps by going in to the desktop with >>>>>>> finder >>>>> and accessing the applications folder on the mac hd. The problem is that I >>>>> have nothing on my desktop at all. 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