Apparently VoiceOver is seeing some sort of change in something you have open. Again, just for the heck of it, I would take a close look at the verbosity settings in the VO utility. I really am at a loss as to what could be causing that to happen. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.macfortheblind.com AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Nope all of my mail boxes are on level 2 lol! This does not happen when I'm > inthe list view only when I'm int ehfolder view. > On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:32 AM, John Panarese wrote: > >> If it is mail, the only thing I can think of is maybe you have opened one >> of your mailboxes in the tree view. I'm not sure, though, what effect it >> would have, but the fact that you hear, ro 8 expanded, causes me to wonder. >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://www.macfortheblind.com >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> On Mar 28, 2011, at 1:49 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> and out side of an application as well. This is absolutaly driving me out >>> the wall. Other people say just close the view but I don't always remember >>> that it's closed lol! >>> On Mar 27, 2011, at 10:45 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>> >>>> Well, it does sound like a verbosity issue of some kind. At least, >>>> hearing a particular row being expanded is normally related to that. >>>> However, if you have not changed any utility settings, I'm not sure what >>>> could be causing it. I have not ever heard mail make any announcement >>>> like that. >>>> >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> >>>> John D. Panarese >>>> Director >>>> Mac for the Blind >>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>> >>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>> >>>> On Mar 27, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> No I imported my prefs from my last install and there were no more >>>>> changes after that. it didn't happen before. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 7:25 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Did you make any changes to your VoiceOver verbosity settings? That's >>>>>> the only thing that comes to mind off the top of my head. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take Care >>>>>> >>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>> Director >>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>> >>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 6:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well the issue is back. I'm outside the mail app and adium is closed >>>>>>> and I'm hearing row 8 expanded. I wonder if there's a setting I forgot >>>>>>> in the mail prefs? can someone remember? lol! >>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 1:47 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, that's it. I have no idea why you would still hear that >>>>>>>> afterwards though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yeah I did. it was show groups. tha'ts the first ting i did. but mail >>>>>>>>> was still doing it until this morning. I really don't knwo what fixed >>>>>>>>> it or why it was doing it even when adium was not running? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 9:53 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I know there was something in Adium that you can turn off that was >>>>>>>>>> making the announcements come up for rows expanding and closing. I >>>>>>>>>> think it was actually in the view settings of Adium, but I'd have to >>>>>>>>>> look. I know I changed it and I don't hear those messages any >>>>>>>>>> more. Let me know if you can't find it and I'll take a closer look. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I had night owl and adium open. I closed adium and it still did it >>>>>>>>>>> until I got up this morning. I don't know what happened since I >>>>>>>>>>> slept last night and when I woke up this morning but I don't hear >>>>>>>>>>> it. Maybe mail decided to behave iself or voice over did anyway. >>>>>>>>>>> Arg. This week is my week for issues eh? lol! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 10:53 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any other applications open. I vaguely recall >>>>>>>>>>>> something like this happening to someone else and it coming down >>>>>>>>>>>> to changing a verbosity setting in VoiceOver Utility. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello. My mail is saying row 8 expanded when I'm in the folders >>>>>>>>>>>>> list. I can't think of what could have caused this. It also does >>>>>>>>>>>>> this when I'm not in the application. I don't want to close the >>>>>>>>>>>>> folders list and bring it up every time I want to read messages. >>>>>>>>>>>>> it didn't do it before my osx reinstall. I'm drawing a blank here. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> TIA. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to >>>>>>>>>>>>> contact me my info is below. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to >>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to >>>>>>> contact me my info is below. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>> >>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to >>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact >>>>> me my info is below. >>>>> >>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >