[mac4theblind] Re: mail saying row 8 expanded

  • From: John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:46:41 -0400

     Apparently VoiceOver is seeing some sort of change in something you have 
open.  Again, just for the heck of it, I would take a close look at the 
verbosity settings in the VO utility.  I really am at a loss as to what could 
be causing that to happen.

Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.macfortheblind.com

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT

On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Nope all of my mail boxes are on level 2 lol! This does not happen when I'm 
> inthe list view only when I'm int ehfolder view.
> On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:32 AM, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>    If it is mail, the only thing I can think of is maybe you have opened one 
>> of your mailboxes in the tree view.  I'm not sure, though, what effect it 
>> would have, but the fact that you hear, ro 8 expanded, causes me to wonder.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> On Mar 28, 2011, at 1:49 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> and out side of an application as well. This is absolutaly driving me out 
>>> the wall. Other people say just close the view but I don't always remember 
>>> that it's closed lol!
>>> On Mar 27, 2011, at 10:45 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well, it does sound like a verbosity issue of some kind.  At least, 
>>>> hearing a particular row being expanded is normally related to that.  
>>>> However, if you have not changed any utility settings, I'm not sure what 
>>>> could be causing it.  I have not ever heard mail make any announcement 
>>>> like that.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>> 
>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 27, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> No I imported my prefs from my last install and there were no more 
>>>>> changes after that. it didn't happen before.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care.
>>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 7:25 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Did you make any changes to your VoiceOver verbosity settings?  That's 
>>>>>> the only thing that comes to mind off the top of my head.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>> Director
>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 6:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well the issue is back. I'm outside the mail app and adium is closed 
>>>>>>> and I'm hearing row 8 expanded. I wonder if there's a setting I forgot 
>>>>>>> in the mail prefs? can someone remember? lol!
>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 1:47 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, that's it.  I have no idea why you would still hear that 
>>>>>>>> afterwards though.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yeah I did. it was show groups. tha'ts the first ting i did. but mail 
>>>>>>>>> was still doing it until this morning. I really don't knwo what fixed 
>>>>>>>>> it or why it was doing it even when adium was not running?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Take care
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 9:53 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I know there was something in Adium that you can turn off that was 
>>>>>>>>>> making the announcements come up for rows expanding and closing.  I 
>>>>>>>>>> think it was actually in the view settings of Adium, but I'd have to 
>>>>>>>>>> look.  I know I changed it and I don't hear those messages any  
>>>>>>>>>> more.  Let me know if you can't find it and I'll take a closer look.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I had night owl and adium open. I closed adium and it still did it 
>>>>>>>>>>> until I got up this morning. I don't know what happened since I 
>>>>>>>>>>> slept last night and when I woke up this morning but I don't hear 
>>>>>>>>>>> it. Maybe mail decided to behave iself or voice over did anyway. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Arg. This week is my week for issues eh? lol!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 10:53 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any other applications open.  I vaguely recall 
>>>>>>>>>>>> something like this happening to someone else and it coming down 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to changing a verbosity setting in VoiceOver Utility.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello.  My mail is saying row 8 expanded when I'm in the  folders 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> list. I can't think of what could have caused this. It also does 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this when I'm not in the application. I don't want to close the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> folders list and bring it up every time I want to read messages. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it didn't do it before my osx reinstall. I'm drawing a blank here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TIA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contact me my info is below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to 
>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to 
>>>>>>> contact me my info is below.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to 
>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact 
>>>>> me my info is below.
>>>>> 
>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> 
>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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