Well, it does sound like a verbosity issue of some kind. At least, hearing a particular row being expanded is normally related to that. However, if you have not changed any utility settings, I'm not sure what could be causing it. I have not ever heard mail make any announcement like that. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.macfortheblind.com AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Mar 27, 2011, at 1:02 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No I imported my prefs from my last install and there were no more changes > after that. it didn't happen before. > > Take care. > On Mar 26, 2011, at 7:25 PM, John Panarese wrote: > >> Did you make any changes to your VoiceOver verbosity settings? That's the >> only thing that comes to mind off the top of my head. >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://www.macfortheblind.com >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> On Mar 26, 2011, at 6:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Well the issue is back. I'm outside the mail app and adium is closed and >>> I'm hearing row 8 expanded. I wonder if there's a setting I forgot in the >>> mail prefs? can someone remember? lol! >>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 1:47 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, that's it. I have no idea why you would still hear that afterwards >>>> though. >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> >>>> John D. Panarese >>>> Director >>>> Mac for the Blind >>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>> >>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>> >>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah I did. it was show groups. tha'ts the first ting i did. but mail was >>>>> still doing it until this morning. I really don't knwo what fixed it or >>>>> why it was doing it even when adium was not running? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Take care >>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 9:53 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I know there was something in Adium that you can turn off that was >>>>>> making the announcements come up for rows expanding and closing. I >>>>>> think it was actually in the view settings of Adium, but I'd have to >>>>>> look. I know I changed it and I don't hear those messages any more. >>>>>> Let me know if you can't find it and I'll take a closer look. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take Care >>>>>> >>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>> Director >>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>> >>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 26, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I had night owl and adium open. I closed adium and it still did it >>>>>>> until I got up this morning. I don't know what happened since I slept >>>>>>> last night and when I woke up this morning but I don't hear it. Maybe >>>>>>> mail decided to behave iself or voice over did anyway. Arg. This week >>>>>>> is my week for issues eh? lol! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 10:53 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you have any other applications open. I vaguely recall something >>>>>>>> like this happening to someone else and it coming down to changing a >>>>>>>> verbosity setting in VoiceOver Utility. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello. My mail is saying row 8 expanded when I'm in the folders >>>>>>>>> list. I can't think of what could have caused this. It also does this >>>>>>>>> when I'm not in the application. I don't want to close the folders >>>>>>>>> list and bring it up every time I want to read messages. it didn't do >>>>>>>>> it before my osx reinstall. I'm drawing a blank here. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> TIA. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sarah Alawami >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to >>>>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to >>>>>>>>> contact me my info is below. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>>>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>>>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to >>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact >>> me my info is below. >>> >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> >> >> > > > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to > http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me > my info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marrie12@xxxxxxxxx > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > >