Grav or accent key, just below escape. On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:36 PM, George B wrote: > hummmm what is a grave key, please?? > > From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tracy Duffy > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 09:32 > To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: help on help! > > You can also try command along with the grav key. This will move you from > window to window within an application. At least it does in Snowleopard. > > > On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:30 PM, George B wrote: > > > good job david i am not on my mac and could not remember that command > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert Poehlman > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 09:27 > To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: help on help! > > try vo-f2 twice to bring up a list of open windows. > > > On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Julio C. Perez wrote: > > So, when I press command-tab twice, it doesn't bring me to the > previously open help topic I left. It only switches me to the other > application windows or brings me back to the same VO utilities window. > If I go to the menu and arrow down the windows options, I only see one > applications window available to choose from. Is one of those other > options on that windows drop-down the one I need to take me back to the > topic I left? How does one switch to different windows within an > application window? > On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:00 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote: > > try command-tab twice. > > On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:47 AM, George B wrote: > > First of all command tab changes your application from one to another > not > windows within a application. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Julio C. Perez > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 08:44 > To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: help on help! > > Ok, here is an example.. > > I am currently in a help window that has . here is an even better > example of not having a clue of something that should be (and needs > to > be) understood by a neophyte. > > As I am writing this message, I switch to another window where I'm > working with a help topic. I switch back to this window to write > something and when I use the "command-tab" hoping to return to the > help > window. I end up back in the VoiceOver utilities area. Not the help > topic I thought I would be going to. How do I make this simple > switch > from one window to another without having to navigate back to the > topic > layer after linked layer? > > This is the sort of thing that I never had to think about before. > On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:24 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote: > > can you give us an example? I believe I know what you need to do > but > rather than searching through help for an item, it would speed up > the > process having an example. > > On Mar 3, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Julio C. Perez wrote: > > It seems like the more I think I've learned, the more I know I've > missed! > > Right now I'm going through the VoiceOver help menu seeking areas > I'm > weak on and hoping to learn more. When I get to a "show" clickable > object, I select it. and nothing seems to happen except that it > changes > from a "show" to a "hide" area. Where does the related information > get > shown? What part of this process am I not getting? > > I can freely admit that navigation and safari navigation in > particular are my weakest areas. This makes learning via the > provided > help topics slow. Does anyone know of a good tutorial for > transplanted > windows/internet explorer/JAWS users? I mean, there should be enough > of > us by now to have, at least, an email list that can serve as a place > to > trade and ask for information that might bore those of you for whom > the > mac environment is natural. > > /jp, mac user without papers!************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > changes to their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > -- > Jonnie Appleseed > With His > Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > Touching The Internet > Reducing Technology's disabilities > One Byte At A Tie > > ************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > changes to their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > changes to their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > changes to their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > -- > Jonnie Appleseed > With His > Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > Touching The Internet > Reducing Technology's disabilities > One Byte At A Tie > > ************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > changes to their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > changes to their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > -- > Jonnie Appleseed > With His > Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > Touching The Internet > Reducing Technology's disabilities > One Byte At A Tie > > ************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > changes to their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to > their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > tracyduffy@xxxxxxxxx > Isaiah 2:11 Human pride will be brought down, > and human arrogance will be humbled. > Only the LORD will be exalted > on that day of judgment. > > > tracyduffy@xxxxxxxxx Isaiah 2:11 Human pride will be brought down, and human arrogance will be humbled. Only the LORD will be exalted on that day of judgment.