[mac4theblind] Re: Transitioning from Windows XP to Lion

  • From: David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:06:28 -0500

More on views:
in safari, there are two modes "dom mode" and "group mode".  Dom mode is like 
you might ee in internet explorer for windows.  we call it flat.  Grouping 
items mode puts the page in small blocks and when you find one you wish to work 
with, you interact with it.  It can be a good way to get an overview of what is 
on a page.  Some pages are better suited to grouping items mode especially if 
they have lots of stuff going on on them.

On Nov 28, 2011, at 12:39 PM, barbara jones wrote:

Do I need to put things in different views to make reading easier and if so,
how is this done?
Barbara


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Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Transitioning from Windows XP to Lion


it's a good starting point but there is quite a bit to add to it.

for instance, you can use regular arrows and tab and space in dialogues but
you don't get all the text if you do it.  once you are familiar with the
dialogs though, you can use regular keys quite effectively.  Both guides
focus on vo because that is what they are designed for but I only use vo
commands when I need to read something that is not in the tab order or when
I am working with web pages.

The similarity between windows and the mac are striking in this.

On Nov 28, 2011, at 11:39 AM, barbara jones wrote:

I'm anxious to get to that point.  I did find the getting started in the
menu and think it is quite comprehensive but I'm new so not really sure of
that yet. Barbara


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yes, the quickstart is right there but it does not provide the depth that
the getting started guide does so when you finish with the quickstart,
you'll want to use the getting started guide and of course this list to fill
in where the quickstart leaves off.

Happy macking, I've been doing it for almost 7 years now.

On Nov 28, 2011, at 11:11 AM, barbara jones wrote:

I'm doing that right on the Mac. Thanks.
Barbara


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Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Transitioning from Windows XP to Lion


This document is not the best way to get started.  I'd just learn the mac
and voiceover with the voiceover quickstart and the voiceover getting
started guide on the apple support site
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html
On Nov 27, 2011, at 9:53 AM, barbara jones wrote:

Thank you so much George.  Much appreciated. There is so much to read and
learn. Barbara


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here you go,

http://www.apple.com/support/switch101/


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> Can you tell me where you found switch 101 please?
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