It just takes time and practice. As you keep using it, things will just become second nature and you will create a mental image of where everything is located. Just keep plugging away. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.macfortheblind.com AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 4, 2011, at 8:13 PM, Brian and Denise Albriton wrote: > > Thanks John, and David for yourr messages. Your description here John is > starting to get through to me and David's tip about selecting the item in the > table and tabbing to the information, provided it is in column view is of > great assitance. I don't have it to where I can coherently describe to > someone else how the interface works. That will no doubt come over time. > I will look forward to a podcast from the mac perspective on the itunes > application. John's podcast on mail for instance made that application > clearer. > As always, appreciate the patience and clarity of the list members. > Brian > >> I think Winamp is perceived as easier because it's not as comprehensive as >> iTunes. To be honest, I think folks tend to make a lot out of iTunes >> because of the interface alone. >> >> Basically, folks, you have to understand iTunes this way. I am speaking >> from the Mac perspective here, so it might be a little different in Windows. >> However, this is a Mac list and that's how I am going to proceed. >> >> Everything in iTunes starts with the source list or table. Your Music >> library, movies, radio stations, podcasts, applications for the iPhone/iPad, >> play lists, etc, are all shown in the source view in a pretty straight >> forward list. You interact with the source list and select the specific >> item you want to view by navigating with it either with the down and up >> arrow keys or the VoiceOver navigation keys.. Once you do this, stop >> interacting and the content you will find will be related to that item in >> the source list. >> >> Thus, after you stop interacting with the source list and navigate right >> with the VO keys and right arrow, for example, you will find you library in >> a table format, depending on his you have the browser configured, such as >> album, artists, etc. If you choose the iTunes store, you will find the >> store in an html area you need to interact with. It's actually pretty >> straight forward and requires familiarity and patience more than anything >> else. >> >> I would suggest choosing the album list view, as to me, this is the >> easiest way to view play lists and your library. Also, use the VoiceOver >> keys and the right and left arrows to navigate and not use the tab key as >> much. A lot of the buttons and controls you will find are available in the >> menus or through keyboard shortcuts. >> >> For searches, the search is going to be based on what item in your source >> list you have selected. So, for example, if you have your library selected, >> your search results are going to be songs or movies or such from your >> library. If you are looking to search the iTunes store, be sure you have >> the iTunes store selected in your source list. In the iTunes store, the >> easiest way to see your results is to use the next table command with >> control-option-command-t provided you are interacting with the store html >> area. >> >> In any event, please ask specific questions if you would like us to try to >> give you a hand. That is just an overview and some general tips. >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://www.macfortheblind.com >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 3, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >> >>> So far, I beg to differ. Winamp is much, much easier. I can't stand Windows >>> Media player, and my dream come true would be a >>> version of winamp for the mac. So yeah, an Itunes tutorial would be >>> extremely appreciated. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert >>> Poehlman >>> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 4:57 PM >>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Itunes for beginner >>> >>> there is me <grin> It's actually pretty streight forward, if you can use >>> windows media player, winamp and or realplayer, it's >>> a snap of course, it depends on what you want to do. >>> >>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Brian and Denise Albriton wrote: >>> >>> Is there a podcast on itunes for well, idiots. I don't even qualify for the >>> dummy stage at this point. >>> Have a great weekend folks. >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> ************ >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>> >>> >>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >>> their list subscription is: >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>> >>> The list archive is located at >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>> >>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>> >>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jonnie Appleseed >>> with his >>> Hands-On Technolog(eye)s >>> reducing technology's disabilities >>> one byte at a time >>> >>> ************ >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>> >>> >>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >>> their list subscription is: >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>> >>> The list archive is located at >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>> >>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>> >>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>> ************ >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>> >>> >>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >>> their list subscription is: >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>> >>> The list archive is located at >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>> >>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>> >>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> >> ************ >> >> >> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >> >> >> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >> their list subscription is: >> >> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >> >> The list archive is located at >> >> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >> >> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >> >> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> > ************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to > their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. 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