[mac4theblind] Re: It would be nice to have Alex on IOS devices. Does anyone know why Apple hasn't done this yet?

  • From: Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:57:24 -0700

Oh yeah. he sounds dredful on smallish speakers. lol! I know this as I have 
played blind shoot andit just does not work. lol Hehahahaha. He sounds horable 
even throug headphones. kind of like he's drunk. lol!
On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:50 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:

> none of this stuff in chimes or the other sounds apps is integrated.  I do 
> know that the voices in some of the reading programs you have to buy but then 
> you use them and they are integrated.  Alex has disadvantages where small 
> speakers are concerned.
> 
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
> Yep. Just as I thought. the chimes program sounds good and I'm now trying to 
> use it. but at 7 mb  big the voice of alex was recorded from there mac using 
> the iTunes workflow or the say command  and converted to m4a speech which is 
> mono I think 32kbps. and the speech is not fast enough for me. I listen at 
> about 250 to 300 words per minute. I cannot listen any slower. it drives me 
> nuts. That's why I know the alex voices are not exactly fake but not 
> integrated in to the program. either.
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:07 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
> 
>> do you have anything to say about the other apps?  I have no problems with 
>> voice brief.
>> Please watch your language?
>> 
>> there's another app I didn't include:
>> voice reader
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-reader-text-to-speech/id422829104?mt=8
>> I hope the list doesn't continue to go down hill.
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>> Oh voice brief. I've herd of that and the alex voice sucks.  it is too slow 
>> and cannot be adjusted.  and he mumbles too much.
>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 4:48 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>> 
>>> If you want to get an idea of what it is like to have lion voices or at 
>>> least some of them on your ios device, alex speaks for ann free app called 
>>> chime which can be found here:
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chime/id414830146?mt=8
>>> Here's one that was just released on march 10 and is free.  I'm going to 
>>> get this one too as I have the others and more:
>>> chimeo'clock
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chimeoclock/id497262531?mt=8
>>> Voice brief
>>> You'll have to pay for this but it is well worth it as is the next app in 
>>> the list.  They both feature high quality large download voices which 
>>> essentially blows the alex download theory out of the water.  It could be 
>>> done as these and some other apps demonstrate.
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-brief-text-to-speech/id423322440?mt=8
>>> My favorite self voicing news app is Vocalyze
>>> which self voices content.  When you have this app, drop them a note and 
>>> let them know where you heard about it.
>>> They also produce a similar free app:
>>> voknow
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voknow/id414021672?mt=8
>>> read2go
>>> is a must have self voicing daisy reading app if you use bookshare and it 
>>> reads other daisy books as well.
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/read2go/id425585903?mt=8
>>> 
>>> My last example is InDaisy
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/indaisy/id377597460?mt=8
>>> This is a well crafted app which self voices daisy text and allows for 
>>> listening of audio daisy books.
>>> 
>>> I'm sure you'll find more apps with built-in voices and maybe we should 
>>> start a compendium but when I saw the question, It put me in mind of all 
>>> these apps I've seen and have.
>>> 
>>> Enjoy.  I provide no endorsement, just info.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 4:43 AM, Daniel McGee wrote:
>>> 
>>> Fair enough. I think it comes down to the individual user at the end of the 
>>> day. 
>>> I think it would be cool if there was a download feature where one can 
>>> download the voices they want to use. You know like what happened in Lion. 
>>> That way the user can decide yeah I want to fill up 500MB of my IOS device 
>>> for one voice or just use the ones that come by default on it. 
>>> Just my opinion. What do others think? Are you really not that boverd or do 
>>> you like the idea? 
>>> I'd be interested to know. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks 
>>> 
>>> Daniel   
>>> On 28 Mar 2012, at 21:40, Marcy Weinberg wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That depends on what and how much you want to put on your device.
>>>> 
>>>> A lot of apps and/or a lot of music can be put on an iphone or ipod with 
>>>> 300 to 500 megabites of space.
>>>> 
>>>> So, as much as I like Alex, I'm quite happy with some of the other voices 
>>>> such as Australian and British English.
>>>> 
>>>> Marcy
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 28, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There is enough space on the i devices that 300 to 500 mb lost would not 
>>>> matter.
>>>> On Mar 28, 2012, at 1:05 AM, Daniel McGee wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Justine, when you say negligible, are you basically saying that it 
>>>>> won't be worth Alex being put on IOS even though the storage goes up to 
>>>>> 64GB. 
>>>>> I understood your post apart from that word "negligible" I look it up but 
>>>>> am still none the wiser. Could you explain what you mean in context. I 
>>>>> think I know what you mean but want to make sure. 
>>>>> Thanks 
>>>>> Daniel  
>>>>> On 28 Mar 2012, at 02:16, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes they do. the iphone 4 8 gig is 99 dollars.. I can't remember how 
>>>>>> much the 8 gig 3gs is.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Justin Harford <blindstein@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Do they still sell 8 g devices? Seriously? 
>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not for the 8 gig devices.  The os takes about 1 or 2 gigs so now you 
>>>>>>>> have 6 gigs to work with and wiht apps and music on it you will not 
>>>>>>>> have any room for alex.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Justin Harford <blindstein@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yeah I don't know about the processor, but I think an extra 200 mb 
>>>>>>>>> would be pretty negligible considering the amount of storage 
>>>>>>>>> available in i devices today.
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If I had the choice. I'd ditch the other voices in exchange for 
>>>>>>>>>> having Alex on my iphone. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 2:10 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I've got some apps with hardwired alex audio in them.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Christohper-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I think it has to do with the processor, and the fact that the Alex 
>>>>>>>>>>> voice is absolutely huge!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Having said that though, if they could fit all the other voices, 
>>>>>>>>>>> then I agree, why couldn't they fit Alex.  I see why they didn't do 
>>>>>>>>>>> it, although I agree their reasoning isn't very logical.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel McGee" 
>>>>>>>>>>> <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] It would be nice to have Alex on IOS 
>>>>>>>>>>> devices. Does anyone know why Apple hasn't done this yet?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, subject line says it all. Wouldn't mind this in the future 
>>>>>>>>>>> but just thought I throw it out there why we don't have him on any 
>>>>>>>>>>> of Apple's IOS devices.
>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone come up with a logical reason because I can't. LOL
>>>>>>>>>>> So with that I'll open up the floor to you guys and listen and 
>>>>>>>>>>> learn from your comments!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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