[mac4theblind] Re: Introduction
- From: "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:05:35 -0700
o o david you will never change how do you know the age of scott?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David hilbert poehlman
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 10:53
> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Introduction
>
> Yes, you can buy and buy and buy. I did not say you cannot hook it to
> a mac.
>
> I've ben using computers since before you were born so let's not flame
> each other here eh?
>
> On Jun 16, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>
> > Absolute bunk!
> >
> > USB to serial convertors exist here.
> >
> > http://www.keyspan.com
> >
> > Juliet converts straight ASCII (N, 8, 1) to braille as well as can
> take more advanced printer output. (no problem there)
> >
> > What's a Mac do that a PC hasn't done for all these years?
> >
> > Work correctly for one. There's a real operating system under the
> hood not Winblows, the hardware is better, the interoperability with
> networks and other devices is superior and even as a strict PC out
> performs other PCs. (note PC Mag rating the Mac as the best Windows
> computer of the year).
> >
> > On Jun 16, 2014, at 1:36 PM, David hilbert poehlman
> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> The juliet does not usb.
> >>
> >> The more I hear of this, the more convinced it is not a way forward
> and trust me, I'd love to see you in the driver's seat of a shiny new
> mac and would help you free of charge to make that happen if it were as
> I have helped so many.
> >>
> >> Those who have gone contrary to my directions have wound up not
> being happy with the results.
> >>
> >> Let's start with...
> >> ...What's a mac gonna do for you that a pc does not and has not done
> for all these years?...
> >> After truly understanding the ride you are in for, deciding to go
> mac will avail you of all the help I can give.
> >>
> >> On Jun 16, 2014, at 1:01 PM, John Panarese wrote:
> >>
> >>> To add to this, also keep in mind Duxbury will be releasing a Mac
> version of the DBT soon. To my understanding, it is in Beta now.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Take Care
> >>>
> >>> John D. Panarese
> >>> Director
> >>> Mac for the Blind
> >>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> >>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> >>>
> >>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8
> Mountain Lion
> >>>
> >>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> >>>
> >>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 16, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Scott Granados <scott@granados-
> llc.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I would think your going to be able to run Duxberry under the
> virtual machine in an existing windows environment so to the program it
> wouldn't know the difference. As for the braille device not sure. Do
> you happen to know what sort of interface it uses? Is it USB or RS232
> serial or what do you use to connect it to the computer. Also are
> there special drivers involved or does it support the normal print
> protocols. I don't know the answer to this but I would guess the
> manufacturer would have a good idea whether this could be done and how.
> If it's a simple matter of making Serial work you can use something
> like a WUSB11 serial to USB adapter from Keyspan to do the trick. It
> may be more involved than that so I'd suggest you ping the manufacturer
> of your braille hardware.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>> Scott
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jun 16, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Tom Behler <tombehler@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Scott:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for this very thoughtful response. I appreciate it
> greatly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you know whether or how a Mac with Voiceover can successfully
> be integrated with the Duxbury Braille translation software, and a
> Juliet Pro-60 Braille embosser?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is important for me, since I use these items in many aspects
> of my college teaching work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dr. Tom Behler
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 9:52 AM
> >>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Introduction
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Tom, I would suggest you run and not walk and switch to a Mac.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here's my reasoning.
> >>>>> First while you're correct your Microsoft productivity
> applications may not be accessible natively under the Mac OS there are
> lots of good work arounds like Apple IWork which uses comparable
> programs that are compatible with the office files. So instead of Word
> for example you would use Pages and probably enjoy the use of Pages
> better. (I like the interface better myself)
> >>>>> The quality of the Apple hardware is far superior to
> that of your average Dell. While you can soup up a Dell with Apple you
> know all your parts work together and integrate nicely. Everything
> form setting up printers to networks etc is easier and more logical.
> >>>>> Next, with software like VMWare Fusion you can run
> windows under your Mac at the same time (in another window) as Mac OS
> so you can have the best of both worlds available to you at the same
> time. I frequently drag and top files between Mac and Windows between
> the applications and find the integration very smooth. So you can run
> Jaws inside your virtual machine and voice over outside giving you a
> fully speaking path between both environments.
> >>>>> Next, Apple is the future in my mind. Most companies
> that I have worked for in recent years have migrated to Mac away from
> Microsoft products. I worked for a company where we swapped out 60,000
> Dell laptops with Macbook Pros and never looked back.
> >>>>> Next support, Apple support as in direct from the
> company is miles ahead of Dell. Just the quality of the support and
> backup you receive by Apple is superior. This may not matter so much
> since you have in house staff at your university but for a solo guy
> like my self running his own business it's important.
> >>>>> Next, if you chose to fully participate in the Apple
> Ecosystem you'll have a much better time with integrating your Mac to
> your phone, tablet and TV than you will with Dell.
> >>>>> That's just a few reasons that come to mind. You lose
> nothing by making the apple switch but you gain a lot in functionality.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How's that?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 16, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Tom Behler <tombehler@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks very much, David.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You may be quite correct. . I'm just trying to keep an open
> mind about the choice until I have to make a decision early this Fall.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> P.S. To all list members: I would have replied to David
> individually, but couldn't pull his personal e-mail address out of his
> reply, so sorry for the extra list traffic.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dr. Tom Behler
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of David hilbert poehlman
> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 9:59 PM
> >>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Introduction
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Given your circumstances I see no advantage at all
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jonnie Appleseed
> >>>>> With his HandsonTechnolog(eye)s
> >>>>> Touching the Internet
> >>>>> Reducing technology's disabilities
> >>>>> one byte at a time
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 15, 2014, at 19:24, "Tom Behler" <tombehler@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello, everyone.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have just joined this e-mail list, and would like to introduce
> myself as a means of letting you know why I am reaching out to you for
> a bit of assistance. Hopefully, this intro will help you understand
> who I am, what my situation is, and what I'm trying to accomplish.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am a blind Professor of Sociology at Ferris State University in
> Michigan. I have been teaching for over 30 years, and have used
> adaptive computer technology to perform various aspects of my job for
> the vast majority of that time. Of course, like all of us, adaptive
> technology has been fundamentally important to me in various aspects of
> my personal life as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyway, since Ferris State University is still pretty much a
> windows-based institution,I currently use Windows 7, Office 2010, Jaws
> 14, the Duxbury Braille translation software, and the Juliet Pro-60
> embosser to do my work both at my office and at home.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My office computer is slated to be replaced this Fall, and I have
> been given the opportunity to at least play around with a loaner
> Macbook Pro laptop over the summer, to test out its possible usefulness
> for me as a replacement computer. The Macbookpro that I'm borrowing
> over the summer uses the Mavericks 10.9 OSX operating system. If I go
> with a Mac for my actual office replacement computer, it would be an
> Imac desk top.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If I do not decide to make the switch to a Mac, I'd simply go
> with a Dell desktop PC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I understand that Microsoft Office programs for the Mac, such as
> Word, Excel, and Internet Explorer are not very accessible with Mac
> Voiceover. I also have been told that there may be some major
> compatibility issues with the Duxbury Braille translation software, and
> my Juliet Pro-60 embosser.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What I am requesting from you is some basic guidance regarding
> whether trying to learn, and switch over to a Mac would be feasible,
> given the above concerns, and given the short time I would have to
> learn a Mac, in order to get it totally up and running for the Fall
> semester.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are there some very general podcasts and/or tutorials you could
> point me to to help give me at least some idea of what I'd be getting
> into as I try to learn the mechanics of basic Mac operation?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for whatever you can do to assist me. Although I may not
> respond to every post I receive, please know that each reply will be
> read and considered seriously.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>> Dr. Tom Behler, Professor of Sociology
> >>>>> Department Of Social Sciences
> >>>>> Ferris State University
> >>>>> Big Rapids, MI
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >> Jonnie Appleseed
> >> with his
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> >> Touching The Internet
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