[mac4theblind] Re: ITunes for beginner
- From: David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:27:27 -0400
interesting, what will the mac have instead of itunes? remember, itunes is
much more complex than windows media player and has a lot more to offer. Apple
has done a good job of providing for accessibility to itunes and I find itunes
on windows much easier to use than other programs of comparable or near
comparable capability.
On Sep 4, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Bubba wrote:
Well, I use ITunes just about every day on the PC and when things are right
I have no problem with iTunes and JFW. NO it is not as easy as windows media
player but it is very useable. Now understand iTunes is an Apple program
made for Apple machines. So it as I hear works much better and smoother on
the Mac. This would make since it is an Apple program. Now it is up to other
screen readers to make their stuff work with apple products just like Apple
would have to make Vo work with Windows products. Just as it is that the app
makers to make their apps accessible with Vo not Apple make Vo to work with
apps. But all in all I don't use iTunes for anything but playing music and
stuff sometimes now. I use the app store on the IOS devices and iTunes on
the IOS devices as it is a lot less pain and when the new IOS come out you
will not have to use iTunes at all unless you want to. All can be done on
the devices and Macs . All in the clouds if you want that. I think in year
or so ITunes might just go away . Other than to be used as a music or video
player if you choose for it to be used that way. JST
Bubba
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[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JULIO PEREZ
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 10:49 AM
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: ITunes for beginner
I'm sorry David but I DO want to point out that using iTunes (latest
version) with JAWS (latest version) gives me a real headache. I'm not new to
this stuff and I have plenty of experience and patience in dealing with
unruly apps. The unpredictability of how tabbing, shift tabbing and using F6
with JAWS in iTunes is ridiculous. I get plenty of controls without prompts;
using the JAWS cursor is not good enough... I am no beginner in using JAWS
or iTunes. As long as I only work with my music library, I can handle it
relatively well. Everything else including registering with iTunes,
configuring an iPhone and many other things that would be really cool to
master are painful at best. From reading your message, I come away with the
impression that it trouble with iTunes is totally an user issue and I
disagree.
I don't understand why Apple doesn't make their iTune Windows interface more
accessible. I bet it will draw more blind Window users to their other
devices.
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[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert
Poehlman
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:10 AM
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: ITunes for beginner
I use itunes with jaws for windows with no scripts just fine. It looks an
aweful lot like itunes on the mac to me.
On Sep 4, 2011, at 2:52 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
Hi there. Thank you very much for trying to help, but I will absolutely
never install Itunes on my PC. If I have it on the mac, that's more than
sufficient; I don't even like using it there, but since it's more or less
part of the OS, I'm willing to learn it to the best of my ability. The point
is, though, that there's no way it's ever going to touch the PC. I feel the
way about Skype, and instant messaging stuff. I just don't want to bog down
my PC with that stuff, so I put it on the mac, mostly so that I can at least
have a few reasons to own the thing.
Anyway, like I said, thanks for trying to help, but I suspect that Itunes on
my macbook is a completely different animal than itunes would be on the PC.
Missy
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[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bubba
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 11:14 PM
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Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: ITunes for beginner
Hi, don't know about the Mac as I don't have one yet. Looking to get one as
quick as my pocket aloud it. But they make scripts for JFW and iTunes that
will help with this. See my previous message with the links. HTH
Bubba
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[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 5:20 PM
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Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Itunes for beginner
I was given that suggestion earlier this morning by someone on twitter when
I first experienced the problem, and tried to follow those exact steps right
away. Unfortunately, when I went to the lcd section, it just said unknown
when I switched to the other view. Same problem happened on both stations,
and when I play them in winamp, everything is fine, so it's definitely an
itunews-related problem.
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[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert
Poehlman
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 5:18 PM
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Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Itunes for beginner
ok, on the macbook in itunes, there is an "lcd section" in there, you will
find the currently playing item.
On Sep 3, 2011, at 5:13 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
Well, I have itunes on the macbook. I have winamp on the pc. I have no idea
where I'd have to look in the app to find the info I needed. It sounds like
winamp is still my best bet for listening to internet radio if there's no
way to get Itunes to make the title and artist info easily accessible.
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[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert
Poehlman
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 5:11 PM
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Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Itunes for beginner
what were you using if not your pc? The title and artist will not show up
in the title bar. They show up inside the app.
On Sep 3, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
Well, the best example would be this afternoon, I was listening to internet
radio, and I really needed the title and artist info to show up in the
title bar, and no matter what I did, Itunes couldn't do it, so I had to use
my PC, which was fine, but it made things a bit difficult.
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert
Poehlman
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 4:58 PM
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Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Itunes for beginner
details please? we can help.
On Sep 3, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
I'd be interested in such a podcast too. I've had to use itunes this
afternoon, and it has not been an enjoyable experience.
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[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian and Denise
Albriton
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 4:43 PM
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Subject: [mac4theblind] Itunes for beginner
Is there a podcast on itunes for well, idiots. I don't even qualify for the
dummy stage at this point.
Have a great weekend folks.
Brian
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