[mac4theblind] Re: IPad2
- From: Josh de Lioncourt <overlord@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:23:12 -0400
Well, you have posted on some lists as JOe and some as Bubba and I didn't put
that much thought into it when I replied. Sorry, in any case. Should pay more
attention to which name I'm replying to. LOL.
Shortly after I posted, a game developer and a web site who both received
iPhone 4S devices in advanced have confirmed that they have 512MB of RAM, so it
looks like the specs are basically the same as the iPad 2.
Also, historically, the iPad has always been ahead of the iPhone in terms of
the processor. Apple's A4 chip was released in the original iPad in April 2010,
before reaching the iPhone 4 in June. This year, the iPad 2 had the A5 chip
before it made it to the iPhone 4S. So, really, it's all in which specs you
want to quote, as far as which one is behind the other. The iPad and iPhone
models that are released in the same year are usually roughly comparable in
specifications.
I don't believe the iPad, or the iPod touch for that matter, will ever have a
camera on par with the iPhone. This is especially true of the iPad, as it just
isn't a device where photography makes much sense. The cameras are their for
FaceTime primarily. If a user is interested in OCR or other camera related
functionality, the iPhone is probably the better choice in that case.
On Oct 10, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Bubba wrote:
> Well, I guess Joe is a s good as anything but the name was Bubba. Now I
> agree and have a IPad myself just to let you know. And no I don't just flick
> around on the screen but if you do this is ok, as whatever is comfortable to
> that person. Now as of the 1 gb of ram this is true it is rumor. But the I
> pad has always ran behind the iPhone in hardware . For example they gave the
> ipad1 no camera and less processer and less ram than the iphone4. Then the
> ipad2 came out with a camera and it was still running behind the iphone4 on
> this they gave it a faster processer and booted the ram to the same as the
> iphone4 to 512 gb. The ipad1 only had 256 mb of ram. So with this I would
> think the hardware changes on the iPhone with the new processer and the all
> new reworked camera and with the new talking commands that the iphone4s only
> has it would justify the extra 512 mb of ram bring it to 1gb. Now yes this
> is speculation, as well as my thoughts. I myself gave my iPad to my wife as
> she is a seeing person and got more out of it then me! Also I found that the
> iPad was not that easily toted around as the iPhone was and just did not nee
> the display size as I could not see any how. Also navigation on the iPhone
> can be done just as you say on the iPad. I have plans on getting the new
> iphone4s as well as the Ipad3 when it comes out if it has a much better
> camera as this would be what my wife would want one with a camera but she
> wants to wait and see if the new ipad3 has a lot better camera. So this is
> my thoughts Jo .
>
>
>
> Sign,
> Bubba
> bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 9:14 AM
> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: IPad2
>
> Joe,
>
> Just a couple of corrections here.
>
> No one knows how much RAM is in the iPhone 4S. There has been
> speculation…strictly speculation…that it *might* include 1GB, but that is by
> no means definitive, and we won't know for sure until iFixIt or a similar
> site does a tear down after the iPhone arrives.
>
> The iPad's larger screen is a huge benefit to users, whether you can see it
> or not. I know many totally blind users who find enormous benefits to the
> iPad's larger display, myself included. Faster access to more content
> increases efficiency and enjoyment of the iOS experience.
>
> Some users are having a hard time breaking out of the mindset that screen
> readers of the past have put them in, where everything must be painstakingly
> navigated to in a linear fashion. Sighted users haven't had to do this for
> decades, thanks to point-and-click inventions like the mouse and trackpad.
> We, as visually impaired users, finally have an extremely similar tool for
> navigation at our disposal in iOS, and I'm frankly surprised at the numbers
> of users who still insist upon navigating linearly through everything on the
> screen.
>
> That isn't to say that you can't use an iOS device by flicking through
> everything on the screen, but it is certainly not the primary way it was
> intended to be used.
>
> Hope these thoughts help someone. :)
>
> Josh
>
> On Oct 10, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Bubba wrote:
>
>> Yes, the iPhone will work just fine as a note taker with a BT keyboard.
> But
>> now if you have any kind of vision that you can see some then the larger
>> iPad will come in handy over the iPhone because of it display. Also the
>> ipad2 has a better processer then the iphone4 but this is going to change
> in
>> the iphone4s as they will have the same processer size and the iphone4s
> will
>> have more ram it will have 1gb of ram as the ipad2 will have only 512 mb
> of
>> ram. JST
>>
>>
>> Sign,
>> Bubba
>> bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Justin Harford
>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 12:18 AM
>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: IPad2
>>
>> I actually did this too with a think-outside bluetooth keyboard that my
>> parents had given me for Christmas a few years before I bought my iPhone.
>> El 09-10-2011, a las 20:33, Sarah Alawami escribió:
>>
>>> lol. I use my iphone to take notes in class wiht a bt keybnoard and it
>> works. I can go back to and review my results for a test.
>>>
>>> Take care.
>>> On Oct 9, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Both the iPad 2 and the iPod touch include cameras.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I have a hard time grasping situations when an assistive
>> device is a better option than an iPad, iPod, or iPhone for one enormous
>> reason that doesn't come up nearly as often as it should.
>>>>
>>>> While there may be specific cons to an iOS device for specific users,
>> (i.e. the lack of a built-in Braille display), the sheer volume of apps
> that
>> expand the utility of an iOS device outweighs those cons by many thousands
>> of times over. No matter what AT device you are talking about, it will
> never
>> be able to do even a tenth of the number of things an iPad/iPod/iPhone
> will.
>> That alone would justify the inconvenience of a separate Braille display,
>> for instance.
>>>>
>>>> The iPod touch/iPhone and the iPad with its larger screen are radically
>> different devices that have entirely different situations where they are
>> useful. While it is true that if you learn to use one, you will know how
> to
>> use the other, that is essentially where the similarity ends. It's like
>> saying a pay telephone and an iPhone are the same, because they both have
>> keypads for making a phone call. (Well, that might be an exaggeration, but
>> it proves the point.)
>>>>
>>>> The iPad is much better, in my opinion, as a note-taker or laptop
>> replacement. It offers the best browsing experience of any device I've
> ever
>> used, is great for reading books, managing email, etc.
>>>>
>>>> On the other end of the spectrum, the iPhone or iPod touch is a great
>> portable device for listening to music, identifying money, leaving
> reminders
>> for oneself, browsing on the go, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I have both, and use them in entirely different ways, and I can't
> imagine
>> being without either.
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 9, 2011, at 12:19 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ultimately, it is your decision, but the orion is more expensive unless
>> you want braille for your ipad so need a refreshable braille display The
>> ipad2 can do a lot but it is not a product specifically oriented to the
>> blind.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can also buy an ipod touch which is smaller and less expensive. It
>> is comparable in features, form and functionality to the ipad 2 but some
>> folk find the ipad 2 to be a bit daunting, some find they like they extra
>> spac as well so between the ipod touch and the ipad 2, it is a hard call
> as
>> to that unless of course you want a camera and I can't remember if the
> ipad
>> 2 has a camera in it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 9, 2011, at 12:06 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ipad 2 most deffinitely unless you want to wait till the 3 comes out
>> whenever that is.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 9, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Peggy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Am thinking about getting an IPad2 (sort of). Also thinking maybe I
>> should wait until the braille PDA from NBP comes out. Any thoughts?
>>>>> Peggy & Patty
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