Before IOS 5 you would have to have sited help. But with the new IOS 5 you will not need sited help as all you will need to do is take the device out of the box and turn it on and do a triple click of the home key and it will turn Vo on. So you no longer need a PC to do this with or sited help. HTH Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert Poehlman Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 8:53 AM To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: FW: [a-iOS] New VoiceOver Features in iOS 5 | AxS Lab if you didn't have a computer, how did you turn on vo? On Oct 12, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Bubba wrote: I did not either. I assume if you did not have a computer. Bubba bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Justin Harford Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:07 AM To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: FW: [a-iOS] New VoiceOver Features in iOS 5 | AxS Lab I didn't ever need sighted assistance to set up my iPhone 3gs either. El 11-10-2011, a las 21:23, Bubba escribió: > FYI, see below. > > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx > > > -----Original Message----- > From: a-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:a-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of Trea Abma > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:57 PM > To: a-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [a-iOS] New VoiceOver Features in iOS 5 | AxS Lab > > Glad this is back: > Notification now gets read directly again (as iOS3), but can be turned > of in settings. > > Trea > From: Hai Nguyen Ly <mailto:gymnastdave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:24 PM > To: a-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [a-iOS] New VoiceOver Features in iOS 5 | AxS Lab > > > http://axslab.com/articles/new-voiceover-features-in-ios5.php > > > > No Help Needed! VoiceOver Direct From Setup. > > > Everything you need to know about the new VO updates to iOS 5. Custom > labels, Item Chooser and did you know that camera got face detection? > > The best thing about the iPhone and the iOS devices is that blind and > visually impaired can do almost everything as a fully sighted person can - > without help. Now you don't even need sighted assistance for setting up the > device! Or even take a photo > > > Setup > > > When starting up the device before there was a screen telling you to connect > to iTunes. Now it says welcome and start the set-up. From here just press > the Home Button 3 times to start VoiceOver or even tap 3 times with 3 > fingers to Zoom. > > You can also use Apple's keyboard dock but no bluetooth keyboards or braille > displays. > > Tip: By turning VO on then off and then Zoom, you can now toggle them with > triple press Home. > > > Camera > > > The Camera App has been updated with a feature for iOS devices that got the > \"A5\" processor (iPad 2 and iPhone 4S), that now announces if one or more > faces is in the shot. For example VoiceOver says: \"small face center\", so > you can take those holiday family picture, again without assistance from > sighted family members. > > You can also use the volume up button to take a photo so you don't have to > hear or record VO. This also works with headset buttons. > > Also, you now need to double tap to change focus and exposure. > > > New Ways to Navigate. > > > Now it's even easier to find what you are looking for, wether on the home > screen, an app or in Safari. > > > Item Chooser and Search > > > This is feature that has been on the mac and now comes to iOS. What it does > is to bring up a pop-up with a complete list of all items on the screen and > puts them in alphabetic order. When selecting an item it even says where on > the screen it's located. The list also contains a search field for an even > easier way to find that app, folder or button you were looking for. > > To activate the Item Chooser tap 3 times with 2 fingers or with a keyboard > VO + I. You can also search directly from a keyboard with VO + F then enter > the search query and pressing Enter You can move between matching queries > with VO + G for next and hold Shift for previous. > > Tip: Search works very well in Safari as well as everywhere else. > > > Vertical Navigation and Rotor > > > One of my favorite new feature is the Vertical Navigation, which is a rotor > option that lets you navigate to the next vertical item. This is really nice > in 2 column lists like when sorting rotor options in the settings or grid > based layouts, for example a chess game or a spread sheet. > > Another change is that you now can choose what elements to include in the > rotor from the VoiceOVer settings. You can include Heading so you can jump > to between headings everywhere, like in address book to go to next letter > group. > > Also on the iPad the 4 finger swipe left/right is now switching to > next/previous open app. And the old function; go to next/previous Container > is now a rotor option. Although it still work with Control + left or right > And <="" abbr=""> + Tab goes to next open app with the keyboard. > > > Safari Keyboard Shortcuts > > > It is now possible to navigate between headings, links, text fields and much > more with just one key. > > That's right just press H for next heading or L for next Link, there is a > lot of new shortcut and you can read a full list of VoiceOver Commands here > <http://axslab.com/articles/ios-voiceover-gestures-and-keyboard-commands.php >> > > > What did you say VoiceOver? > > > Custom Labels > > > There has always been certain words that was hard to hear or buttons that > were missing a label and just said \"button\". Now that's all going to > change. > > When you do encounter a button that's not labeled correctly or at all you > can now tap 2 times with 2 fingers and hold to set a new custom label. A > sound will indicate if you have done the right gesture and then a text field > and keyboard will appear. After typing your new label VO will remember it > and always speak it the way you want. > > > New Voices > > > If you still have a hard time hearing Apple has added some new voices, like > British Daniel. > > But with great power comes great responsibility, right? The down side to the > new voices is that they have removed some of the old ones. This mens for > example my favorite synthetic voice of all time, Swedish Oskar is replaced > with much harder to hear Alva. And no way to change that. > > For some languages it's also possible to enable a non compressed version. > > There is now also support for Arabic in VoiceOver. > > > Other Nifty Improvements > > > There is like always with a new OS many minor enhancements and fixes here's > some. > > * Notification now gets read directly again (as iOS3), but can be > turned of in settings. > * It's now possible to change the VoiceOver volume with rotor. (Enable > in settings) > * When in a text field you can always use swipe up/down to move by > character. > * Taping with 3 fingers now also announce where on the screen the item > is. > * Calendar icon now says current date. > * Folders now lets you know how many items it contain. > * You can now touch the bar above the dock to go between pages by > swiping up/down. > * It's easier to move icons on the home screen. > > > -- > The group is moderated by Alberto Arreola. 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