[mac4theblind] Re: FW: [a-iOS] New Voiceover Features in iOS 5 | AxS Lab

  • From: David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:44 -0400

for now and probably only.

On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Bubba wrote:

Yes, IOS5 will work on the iphone4. All except the voice command thing and
it will only come on the iphone4s for now. HTH 


Sign,
Bubba 
bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx


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[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:17 AM
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Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: FW: [a-iOS] New VoiceOver Features in iOS 5 |
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So what is the difference in the IPhone 4, and the 4S?

Realise that if the ne IPhone has yet been released, that's not what I have.

I just have the 4 16 gb.  So again, just to confirm, you're saying i o s 5 
still will work.  Right?

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Hilbert Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:09 AM
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: FW: [a-iOS] New VoiceOver Features in iOS 5 | 
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yes.

On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I assume i o s 5 will work on my AT&T IPhone 4 running I O S 4 currently.

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hilbert Poehlman" 
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Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 8:51 AM
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: FW: [a-iOS] New VoiceOver Features in iOS 5 | 
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I used to have someone do it quickly from the phone for me.

On Oct 12, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Bubba wrote:

Well, in the new IOS5 by default the triple click home key is activated. So
now all you need to do is do the triple click to turn on or off Vo. So if
you got the new iphone4s and brought it home you don't need a PC to turn on
Vo just triple click the home key. HTH


Bubba
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[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Justin Harford
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:23 AM
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Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: FW: [a-iOS] New VoiceOver Features in iOS 5 |
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Then I should stand corrected. Would the option to start vo only be
available at startup? If it could always be turned on with tripple tap of
the home button, then it's definitely an improvement.
El 11-10-2011, a las 23:17, Bubba escribió:

> I did not either. I assume if you did not have a computer.
> 
> 
> Bubba
> bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Justin Harford
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:07 AM
> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: FW: [a-iOS] New VoiceOver Features in iOS
> 5 | AxS Lab
> 
> I didn't ever need sighted assistance to set up my iPhone 3gs either.
> El 11-10-2011, a las 21:23, Bubba escribió:
> 
>> FYI, see below.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bubba
>> bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: a-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:a-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Trea Abma
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:57 PM
>> To: a-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [a-iOS] New VoiceOver Features in iOS 5 | AxS Lab
>> 
>> Glad this is back:
>> Notification now gets read directly again (as iOS3), but can be
>> turned of in settings.
>> 
>> Trea
>> From: Hai Nguyen Ly <mailto:gymnastdave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:24 PM
>> To: a-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [a-iOS] New VoiceOver Features in iOS 5 | AxS Lab
>> 
>> 
>> http://axslab.com/articles/new-voiceover-features-in-ios5.php
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> No Help Needed! VoiceOver Direct From Setup.
>> 
>> 
>> Everything you need to know about the new VO updates to iOS 5. Custom
>> labels, Item Chooser and did you know that camera got face detection?
>> 
>> The best thing about the iPhone and the iOS devices is that blind and
>> visually impaired can do almost everything as a fully sighted person
>> can - without help. Now you don't even need sighted assistance for
>> setting up
> the
>> device! Or even take a photo
>> 
>> 
>> Setup
>> 
>> 
>> When starting up the device before there was a screen telling you to
> connect
>> to iTunes. Now it says welcome and start the set-up. From here just
>> press the Home Button 3 times to start VoiceOver or even tap 3 times
>> with 3 fingers to Zoom.
>> 
>> You can also use Apple's keyboard dock but no bluetooth keyboards or
> braille
>> displays.
>> 
>> Tip: By turning VO on then off and then Zoom, you can now toggle them
>> with triple press Home.
>> 
>> 
>> Camera
>> 
>> 
>> The Camera App has been updated with a feature for iOS devices that
>> got
> the
>> \"A5\" processor (iPad 2 and iPhone 4S), that now announces if one or
>> more faces is in the shot. For example VoiceOver says: \"small face
>> center\",
> so
>> you can take those holiday family picture, again without assistance
>> from sighted family members.
>> 
>> You can also use the volume up button to take a photo so you don't
>> have to hear or record VO. This also works with headset buttons.
>> 
>> Also, you now need to double tap to change focus and exposure.
>> 
>> 
>> New Ways to Navigate.
>> 
>> 
>> Now it's even easier to find what you are looking for, wether on the
>> home screen, an app or in Safari.
>> 
>> 
>> Item Chooser and Search
>> 
>> 
>> This is feature that has been on the mac and now comes to iOS. What
>> it
> does
>> is to bring up a pop-up with a complete list of all items on the
>> screen
> and
>> puts them in alphabetic order. When selecting an item it even says
>> where
> on
>> the screen it's located. The list also contains a search field for an
>> even easier way to find that app, folder or button you were looking for.
>> 
>> To activate the Item Chooser tap 3 times with 2 fingers or with a
>> keyboard VO + I. You can also search directly from a keyboard with VO
>> + F then
> enter
>> the search query and pressing Enter You can move between matching
>> queries with VO + G for next and hold Shift for previous.
>> 
>> Tip: Search works very well in Safari as well as everywhere else.
>> 
>> 
>> Vertical Navigation and Rotor
>> 
>> 
>> One of my favorite new feature is the Vertical Navigation, which is a
> rotor
>> option that lets you navigate to the next vertical item. This is
>> really
> nice
>> in 2 column lists like when sorting rotor options in the settings or
>> grid based layouts, for example a chess game or a spread sheet.
>> 
>> Another change is that you now can choose what elements to include in
>> the rotor from the VoiceOVer settings. You can include Heading so you
>> can jump to between headings everywhere, like in address book to go
>> to next letter group.
>> 
>> Also on the iPad the 4 finger swipe left/right is now switching to
>> next/previous open app. And the old function; go to next/previous
> Container
>> is now a rotor option. Although it still work with Control + left or
>> right And <="" abbr=""> + Tab goes to next open app with the keyboard.
>> 
>> 
>> Safari Keyboard Shortcuts
>> 
>> 
>> It is now possible to navigate between headings, links, text fields
>> and
> much
>> more with just one key.
>> 
>> That's right just press H for next heading or L for next Link, there
>> is a lot of new shortcut and you can read a full list of VoiceOver
>> Commands
> here
>> 
> <http://axslab.com/articles/ios-voiceover-gestures-and-keyboard-comman
> ds.php
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What did you say VoiceOver?
>> 
>> 
>> Custom Labels
>> 
>> 
>> There has always been certain words that was hard to hear or buttons
>> that were missing a label and just said \"button\". Now that's all
>> going to change.
>> 
>> When you do encounter a button that's not labeled correctly or at all
>> you can now tap 2 times with 2 fingers and hold to set a new custom
>> label. A sound will indicate if you have done the right gesture and
>> then a text
> field
>> and keyboard will appear. After typing your new label VO will
>> remember it and always speak it the way you want.
>> 
>> 
>> New Voices
>> 
>> 
>> If you still have a hard time hearing Apple has added some new
>> voices,
> like
>> British Daniel.
>> 
>> But with great power comes great responsibility, right? The down side
>> to
> the
>> new voices is that they have removed some of the old ones. This mens
>> for example my favorite synthetic voice of all time, Swedish Oskar is
>> replaced with much harder to hear Alva. And no way to change that.
>> 
>> For some languages it's also possible to enable a non compressed version.
>> 
>> There is now also support for Arabic in VoiceOver.
>> 
>> 
>> Other Nifty Improvements
>> 
>> 
>> There is like always with a new OS many minor enhancements and fixes
> here's
>> some.
>> 
>> * Notification now gets read directly again (as iOS3), but can be
>> turned of in settings.
>> * It's now possible to change the VoiceOver volume with rotor. (Enable
>> in settings)
>> * When in a text field you can always use swipe up/down to move by
>> character.
>> * Taping with 3 fingers now also announce where on the screen the item
>> is.
>> * Calendar icon now says current date.
>> * Folders now lets you know how many items it contain.
>> * You can now touch the bar above the dock to go between pages by
>> swiping up/down.
>> * It's easier to move icons on the home screen.
>> 
>> 
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