[m-w] Re: My response

  • From: "Michael R. Martin" <drsewnsew@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <m-w@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:04:24 -0500

  OK everyone, it is me Lucy, and I will try to answer all your concerns as 
best as I can.   
I do not know what "plan" you are referring to at the bottom of page one.  If 
you are talking about the "Application for Independent Administration", you are 
holding that in your hand.  All this form does is appoint Michael as 
"Independent Administrator".  Since there was no "Independent Executor" 
appointed in the will this is necessary so only one person will have to sign 
documents to wind up the Estate.  He can not even touch the bank account or 
find out about the life insurance without these "Letters of Administration".  
They will not talk to him without it.  If you do not feel Michael is 
"Independent" enough then appoint me.  I have the ability to be independent due 
to the ethics that I have to practice in my career.  I have also handled many 
Estate returns in my time.  While you may have 4 years to probate the Estate 
nothing can be done until it is done.
The rental amount was received along with the appraisal to get an idea of what 
we were dealing with.  It is not written in concrete, it was obtained so 
everyone can make an educated decision as to what to do with the property.  As 
of this date that decision has not been made.  The will needs to be probated 
and other issues settled before that decision can be made.
We have discussed many times how the amount for the check for $4,246.11 was 
arrived at.  The annuity was left to Michael and Michael alone.  He decided to 
share it with the rest of you.  He was the direct beneficiary of that amount so 
the whole amount will be taxed to us on 1099R next year.  It is not part of the 
Estate that is to be divided amount the 6 of you.  While he loves all of you he 
is not willing to bear the tax burden on the full amount.  The tax is not on 
the Estate since the money did not go to the Estate, it was a direct bequest to 
Michael.  We took out 30% to cover the taxes that will imposed on our return 
and then divided the remainder by 6.  When I do the 2009 return and 30% was too 
much, we will refund the difference to you.   The Gross Distribution was 
$36,395.26.  Less the 30% left $25,476.68.  Divided by 6 was $4,246.11.  I will 
send documentation later on with some other stuff.
I do not know what idea you heard about Dan dealing with the "in" and ''out" 
groups of selling the house.  Dan please explain.
I do not know why your sisters are not responding to your emails.
The lawyer was communicating with me because I was talking to him on other 
subjects and just asked how things were going.  He thought I was asking on 
Michael's behalf and responded to me. That has now been taken care of.  The 
title does not need to transferred to all 6 names.  In Texas, the minute 
someone dies everything then belongs to the Estate of ......  The Esate will be 
responsible to distributing the assets, paying any bills, etc.  That is why is 
it more efficient to have only one person handling it and not six.  That is 
what the "Letters of Administration" will allow Michael to do.  The bank 
account needs to be changed and the insurance looked into.  None of that can be 
accomplished with out these letters.  Yes tax returns need to be filed.  We are 
still looking to see if she even needs to file one.  As last resort we will 
contact the IRS for a copy of last years retun and any 2008 information they 
have on file.  Then when a decision is made to sell or rent an Estate tax 
return will be due next year to reflect this decision.  That return will also 
eventually show the distribution of the assets.
Answers to questions:
1.  Title needs to be changed to Estate name since the Estate now owns 
2.  We are probably going to have to pay Joe since it was not a straight 
forward will.  Since it was hand written and not witnessed it is more 
3.  No discussion that I know of
4.  No, I will take care of it when I get the information
5.  No decision on rent that I know of.
The only copy of the will is at the lawyers.  Michael did not make a copy of it 
before taking it to him.  I will get copies of the bank statements and send 
them to everyone along with a copy of the will and the documentation of the 
annuity distribution.
Dan please bring the bank statement for your mom's account (now the Estate) to 
work on Monday and I will put them in the package to send to everyone.  I would 
like to see January to May just to stop all this back and forth.  Also if you 
can find any tax return information that would be great too.  There should be a 
Social Security statement, a 1099R from her IRA and Bank interest.
I do not know answers to your other questions.  
I hope this email explains things to everyone.  Diana is now on the list of 
I know you do not want me butting in, but someone has to put a stop to all this 
If you have any other concerns or question, just let me know and I will try to 
get it resolved.


Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:30:47 -0600
Subject: [m-w] My response
From: kathi.pieper@xxxxxxxxx
To: m-w@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Here is what has gone on - I am not going to sign anything until I have the 
plan that is supposed to accompany the form Mike sent (referred to at the 
bottom of the first page of the form).  It seems every one of you has your own 
agenda to the point that Karen's email received no response from a single one 
of you - except Mike to say "thanks for understanding."  Apparently, you don't 
care whether what she said is true or false or hurtful.  Thanks.  We have four 
years to probate the estate.  I still need the papers that I have requested 
numerous times.  

March 26th - Mike sent out an email regarding a fair rental amount for the 
April 16th - I sent a message asking whether or not a decision had been made on 
whether or not the plan was to rent.  In that email I asked what had been 
discussed with the attorney
May 4th - I acknowledged receipt of the check for $4246.11 and asked for detail 

May 5th - Mike replied that he withheld 30% for taxes.  I cannot find any 
information that states there will be tax on estates until the funds exceed 
May 28th - I sent an email explaining that I did not think Sandy would have 
enough time to deal with estate issues and that I was not going to be heading 
to Houston.  Also included information that I had heard on idea Dan had on 
possible ways to deal with the "in" and "out" groups on selling the house. NOTE 
TO Karen - read it again - it was NOT my idea to liquidate based on the 

June 10th - sent a note to Sandy asking how the trip went. No reply
June 11th - sent a note to Karen asking how the trip went. No reply
June 15th - sent an email to the MW list asking what was going on.  Mike 
replied that Joe the lawyer is doing his communicating through Lucy.  He also 
stated that we needed to appoint an executor, title needs to be transferred out 
of Mom's name (currently it is in Dad's name) and put into one of all of our 
names; tax return needs to be filed.  
June 15th - I responded to Mike's email directly to him and offered to handle 
the matters.  Also responded to the MW list and asked why the title would be 
put in any one individual's name rather than "estate".  No response
June 16th - received from Mike a copy of some article he found on how long 
probate takes and the cost.
June 16th - I responded with some information that contradicted the one Mike 
sent.  I also asked the following questions:
1. Why does the name on the title need to be changed? Actually should have been 
changed out of Dad's name a long time ago. 
2. Are we paying Joe?  
3. Was any discussion held about the inventory of assets?
4. Do you want me to file Mom's taxes?
5. What was the decision on rent?
No answers so far
June 17th - I sent an email to the MW group.  No responses.
June 19th - Received from Mike a note - Diana, change as needed, the rest, 
proceed at your discretion.  Forms naming mike as executor and no additional 

June 19th - I responded again asking what the plan is, what the forms are for, 
what are we agreeing to and requesting (again) copies of Mom's will, 
distribution paperwork, Mom's bank statement, and additional questions.
June 20th - Received Mike's immature "throw his hands up" response and the 
advice that he felt he should have kept all the funds that were in Mom's savings
June 22nd - called Sandy to ask why no one was responding.  She only could 
think that no one wanted to hurt anyone elses feelings
June 23rd - received Karen's response - FINALLY.  Apparently she has no concern 
over hurting feelings.  Just make up a bunch of crap and throw it out there.  
Interestingly, no one responded and contradicted anything she said or called to 
say they felt it was a very inappropriate email.  

June 24th - Mike advised that Diana is not on the distribution list.

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