On Oct 4, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Justin Cormack wrote: > I think the real issue is that there has not been a real release yet and > until then there is little point packaging. Because there are so many changes > even since the last beta it is such a moving target. Once 2.0 is out it > should be packaged up... Upstream only suggests when things are ready to be packaged; this has to be the case because there is such variance in attitudes towards labeling; check out libav. If some other release-suitable package is using a library, regardless of whether it's marked "alpha" or "beta" or "svn17329", the library is a candidate to get packaged. If more than about five packages are using it, it's time to ship. The tradeoff is packager/maintainer time. If something is full of bugs, this can get real expensive in time spent. Debian policy is to backport patches rather than force major upgrades midstream, and this is a major limit on version proliferation especially if you're promising support for n years. beta9 has been pretty compelling. I wouldn't have seen any problem shipping it, as it seems analogous to lua4 even when we knew lua5 was around the ccorner. RPi saying "I don't want anything with beta in its name in my release" makes me think they need to get out of the distro business; is marketing driving? Jay