The one I have had the best measured numbers with has been the old “loop
Antenna with two pull out aerials”, $8.00 - $11.00 from Wal-mart. They seems to
be consistent levels across VHF & UHF. The issue is going o be folks put the
antennas on top of the TV in the position that looks good. Which may not be the
best signal. Then there are those that hide them behind the TV which makes them
about as good as a paper clip.
Rick Goetz
R & L Media Systems
rickg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: lptv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lptv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ;
DR ORSON BEVINS
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 10:59 AM
To: lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lptv] Re: LPTV Reception With Indoor Antennas
The Channel Master Flatenna is $10 or approximately $18 with shipping from
their website. We’vc sold thousands of these to our viewers and they are the
best that we’ve seen and tested.
Orson Bevins
From: lptv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <lptv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of
craigf199
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 8:49 AM
To: lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lptv] Re: LPTV Reception With Indoor Antennas
Hard to know with a completely unknown brand. It obviously is not going to
pick up stations 100 miles away. I've seen similar models that say 960 miles or
even 5,000 miles. It's likely a metal antenna inside the plastic of some sort
with an amplifier. Whether these were scientifically designed or just
someone's idea to make something that looks like an antenna with an amplifier
of unknown quality where it may overload easily on strong signals or not have
flat gain across the band, or not be ultra low noise) is anybody's guess. It
could be anywhere from poor to great. The main thing is it's only $16.99! So
not much of a risk.
Craig Fox
WTVU/WMJQ
Syracuse
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-----Original Message-----
From: Norm Kaiser <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sun, Feb 21, 2021 12:37 pm
Subject: [lptv] Re: LPTV Reception With Indoor Antennas
I wonder how well something like this would work with LPTV:
Amplified HD Digital TV Antenna, Up to 100 Miles Range, Support
<https://www.amazon.com/Amplified-Digital-Antenna-Miles-Support/dp/B08HY39SK1/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=indoor%2Btv%2Bantenna&qid=1613928733&sr=8-14&th=1>
4K 1080p tv Stick and All Older TV's - Indoor Smart Switch Amplifier Signal
Booster, Support Free Local Channels with Coax Cable
$16.99
<https://s.yimg.com/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV2/23/logos/amazon.png>
Amplified HD Digital TV Antenna, Up to 100 Miles Range, Support 4K 1080p...
Features: ➤Light as a feather,allows you to place it anywhere and no power
required ➤Match your home decoration...
Only $16.99 with glowing reviews. 4.5 stars out of 5 on Amazon with 989 reviews.
I might buy one to experiment.
Norm Kaiser - Manager of Business Development
RIGHTNOWTV
http://www.RightNowTelevision.com ;<http://www.rightnowtelevision.com/>
norm.kaiser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Sunday, February 21, 2021, 11:14:50 AM CST, craigf199
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
We've also tested passive "window" antennas and have come to the same
conclusion with the Channel Master, but where it's mounted can make a
difference (doesn't have to be on a window). Also, we've tested their
Flatenna+ (same antenna, but amplified) and found it to be a great one as well.
Craig Fox
WTVU/WMJQ
Syracuse, NY
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Bevins <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sun, Feb 21, 2021 4:47 am
Subject: [lptv] Re: LPTV Reception With Indoor Antennas
We tested several brands of passive indoor "window" antennae. Our testing
showed that Channel Master makes the best. The testing we did was several years
ago. If anyone knows of a better passive "window" antenna, please let me know.
Ron Bevins
On Saturday, February 20, 2021, 3:21:47 PM PST, craigf199
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Not too much to read into that. We, as operators, have the ability to look at
FCC databases and other FCC info, and everyone, including them, can look at
RabbitEars to see what each station is running on its main and digital sub
channels including tech info with a specific readout from all of the data from
contributors with TS Reader.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rebecca White <wrlwtv@xxxxxxxxx>
To: lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, Feb 20, 2021 1:15 pm
Subject: [lptv] Re: LPTV Reception With Indoor Antennas
Craig, why do you say that?
On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 12:43 PM craigf199 <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ha! That coincidence is more interesting than you know!
Craig Fox
-----Original Message-----
From: Rebecca White <wrlwtv@xxxxxxxxx>
To: lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: RabbitEars Webmaster <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sat, Feb 20, 2021 10:11 am
Subject: [lptv] Re: LPTV Reception With Indoor Antennas
On another note, speaking of rabbit ears.
I was contacted the other day and asked to install this software somehow at the
transmitter site so they can “see” our signal.
Anyone else get this request and what are the pros and cons, if any?
“am trying to update the listing for ———- on RabbitEars and would like to know
if your chief engineer has the ability to get a TSReader capture of the
broadcast signal? IF you don't have the TSReader program, I can get you a FREE
download of the program and provide the steps necessary to use the program for
TSReader captures.”
Honestly surprised the FCC doesn’t require this so they can keep an eye on
everyone from afar.
Becky
On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 10:03 AM Kelly T. Wallingford <kelly@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I will add that, in our case, our projected coverage on rabbitears maps has
proven to be very accurate in real world terms.
Kelly T. Wallingford
President
On Saturday, February 20, 2021, 07:17:20 AM EST, RabbitEars Webmaster
<webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This is not accurate. RabbitEars assumes an antenna at 13 feet, not 30 feet.
Additionally, the legend at the top right indicates what each color on the map
might represent in terms of antenna required.
- Trip
www.rabbitears.info <http://www.rabbitears.info/>
On 2/19/21 10:47 PM, Kelly T. Wallingford wrote:
Also the FCC & (rabbitears maps) projected coverage is based on people having
an outside antenna 30 ft in the air!
Kelly T. Wallingford
President
On Friday, February 19, 2021, 10:09:07 PM EST, Rebecca White
<mailto:wrlwtv@xxxxxxxxx> <wrlwtv@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I was extremely excited to see the map generated to show our station would
reach over 1 million pops. However the map that was generated to show predicted
coverage was not the reality of the people who would be putting up $10 Walmart
indoor antennas. The number was cut in half.
On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 9:20 PM Norm Kaiser <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
All:
Need some honest, expert advice. In your opinion, how well should an indoor
antenna be able to pick up an LPTV signal.
More specifically: Suppose your house is one mile from the LPTV transmitter.
Let's also suppose you look at the coverage map on Rabbit Ears and your house
where the indoor antenna is smack dab in the green.
Should you be able to pick up the channel relatively easily? Or do LPTV
stations require outdoor antennas as a general rule?
Thanks!
Norm Kaiser - Manager of Business Development
RIGHTNOWTV
http://www.RightNowTelevision.com ;<http://www.rightnowtelevision.com/>
norm.kaiser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
