Maureen, do you still want that old Amino I mentioned? I can dig it out of the
closet if you do.
Norm Kaiser - Manager of Business
DevelopmentRIGHTNOWTVhttp://www.RightNowTelevision.com
norm.kaiser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 10:17:58 AM CST, Maureen Cooper
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Maybe you had some lemons or the signal is not quiet like ours. We have a
special proprietary compression, and since we were out of the third-party's
hands that did not allow us to use that. So, we are able to send a very high
quality stream via limelight with our own equipment and the compressor. I had
Amino's from like over 10 yrs, and they are as sturdy looking as when they
first left. With sending one signal out, via the Amino H140, we finally got a
fit. Perhaps it the signals ability to incorporate a built in buffer too; it
feeds off kind of like pre-saved info, and goes smoothly with internet for a
little bit. So if there is a dip in internet or interruption, you wont be able
to tell. I mean nothing is perfect. But, I can see where an empty box filled
with a bare bones signal with larger files due to quality demands, and yes that
would be an aggravating piece of equipment. Because before we were able to
utilize all of our own developed software; we had some very annoyingness with
affiliates, and the hiccup is all in the signal.
Please send me the Amino, and I will do an experiment for you with Simultvs'
newest signals! Have I ever done you wrong Norm? I'm like your secret Santa, I
gave you, or Rob GREAT referrals...just because, if we do righteous things,
than righteous things shall come to us. And you guys are great; so considerate
and professional; that is much appreciated. I always have good things to say
about Right Now TV!
Sincerely,
Maureen CooperProgram Director, SimultvMaybacks/Holyfield TV
Networks(o)520-252-0263
www.iHolyfieldtv.comwww.Simultv.comwww.maybacksglobal.com
On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 06:31:01 AM PST, Norm Kaiser
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Maureen:
Very interesting that you said that.
In our experience Amino 140s were a complete disaster. Right Now TV almost went
out of business because of them. Entirely unreliable. Junk.
We had to develop our own decoder in-house to replace the Aminos. I have an
Amino right here in my closet that I'm going to take out to the shooting range
and use as target practice!
Norm Kaiser - Manager of Business
DevelopmentRIGHTNOWTVhttp://www.RightNowTelevision.com
norm.kaiser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 04:45:38 AM CST, Maureen Cooper
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I bought around four thousand dollars into Thor boxes for a few affiliate
stations for a previous network, years ago though, but they did not work,
period. Thor agreed they were unable to get them to work, on a couple low
power stations. However, when we returned them, they kept one thousand dollars,
and said there was a scratch on one of the boxes and only returned $3k back to
me.
We have spent the last two years testing all kinds of everything imaginable for
a simple master control and we found a great scheduling system and signal works
great. We have come back to the very functional, inexpensive and sturdy great
decoder - Amino H140 or A140.
I feel like Amino always works.
Sincerely,
Maureen CooperProgram Director, SimultvMaybacks/Holyfield TV
Networks(o)520-252-0263
www.iHolyfieldtv.comwww.Simultv.comwww.maybacksglobal.com
On Tuesday, January 5, 2021, 01:58:37 PM PST, Jon C. Moon
<jonmoon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I use a Blonder-Tongue encoder like Rebecca linked to and the good thing about
those units is that they also have EAS inputs. Even if you're doing two
channels of HD, you can still utilize your old SD EAS unit. You can run the
video out from older EAS unit right into the EAS video/audio inputs on the BT
encoder. It's not going to be a crawl superimposed over your programming
video, but it will keep your station legal.
Jon C. MoonRidgeline TV Channel 99706-897-0872www.ridgelinetv.net
On Jan 3, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Keith Leitch <keith@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Rebecca,
One like this with HD-SDI inputs. Make an offer on eBay for half the asking
price:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Blonder-Tongue-Laboratories-HDE-2H-2S-QAM-HD-Encoder-2-HDMI-2-HD-SDI-QAM/143669399942?hash=item21735d1186:g:rbAAAOSwdwpfIxZ0
Blessings,Keith
Get Outlook for iOSFrom: lptv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <lptv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Rebecca White <wrlwtv@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 2:21:53 PM
To: lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lptv] Re: Digital to Analog to Digital <IMG_1162.jpg>Is this what
you’re referring to?
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 12:11 PM Keith Leitch <keith@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
There is no need to get a Thor Encoder. Instead, just search eBay periodically
for "Blonder Tongue", and you'll find nice HD encoders with two HD program
sources for $300.
I'm an avid eBay buyer. When I find equipment that works, I search eBay
periodically for it.
Be Blessed in the New Year!KeithFrom:lptv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<lptv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Rick Goetz <rickg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 8:03 AM
To: lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lptv] Re: Digital to Analog to Digital
| Can modulate multiple programs on the same frequency - carrier |
No,
each program needs to be modulated on a separate frequency
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Something else to look at on the low-cost units such as the Thor Thunder is
many do not multiplex the streams into one channel. So channel 1 might be RF
channel 14, channel 2 is RF channel 16, etc. Great when doing a small system
for a home, hospital or hotel, but will not work for what we do.
Rick GoetzR & L Media Systems(615) 826-0792rickg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From:lptv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lptv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of ;
craigf199 (Redacted sender "craigf199" for DMARC)
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 7:05 PM
To: lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lptv] Re: Digital to Analog to Digital
From looking over the specs below, this unit, as a modulator, looks like it's
designed purposely just for closed-circuit cable operation as it has only a
75-ohm RF output (picture on website) and not an ASI output normally used to
feed a transmitter's exciter.
It doesn't mention having any EAS capability and has no linear or non-linear
distortion correction meaning it would only work with a very low efficiency
Class A linear amplifier and wouldn't have any ability to correct for mask
filter distortion.
Also, it doesn't mention being able to caption EIA-708, just 608 and for any CC
you would need to have a source that already has Line 21 CC available. That
has mostly become a thing of the past.
So yes, it's ATSC, but not designed for broadcasting.
- 1-8 HDMI channels Inputs (model dependent)
- HDCP compliant works with any HDMI source like DVD Player or Cable,
Satellite STB up to 1080p/60 resolution
- MPEG2 Video Encoding
- 1080p/60, 1080i, 720p, 576i, 480i Video Resolution
- Low Latency (50~100ms)
- MPEG layer 2, AAC, and DD AC3 Audio Encoding
- CC (Closed Caption), EIA 608
- LCN
- DVB-C DIGITAL QAM, ATSC, DVB-T, ISDB-T RF in one device, Modulation
dynamic switching
- Control Via Web-Based NMS, and easy updates Via Web
- LCD Display and front panel control
Craig FoxWTVU/WIXTSyracuse,
NY___________________________________________________________________
-----Original Message-----
From: Norm Kaiser <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Jan 1, 2021 3:00 pm
Subject: [lptv] Re: Digital to Analog to Digital
Hi Dan...yes, this makes sense. The encoder I linked to has an input for
composite video in to get the closed captions from and the device doesn't
appear to be all that expensive.
Norm Kaiser - Manager of Business
DevelopmentRIGHTNOWTVhttp://www.RightNowTelevision.comnorm.kaiser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 08:59:38 PM CST, Dan Peek <dan.peek@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:
For all the afore mentioned reasons plus the fact that sadly HDMI doesn't pass
closed captions. So just converting it to SDI leaves it without embedded
closed captions that the consumer TV can decode or not decode.
Some HDMI encoders take composite on the side for closed caption embedding.
Sometimes HDMI from consumer devices won't talk directly to encoders. Usually
an HDMI splitter remove the copyright stuff and solve that problem.
Dan
On Thu, Dec 31, 2020, 1:46 PM Norm Kaiser <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Craig!
Thanks for the reply.
We do provide either a BlackMagic HDMI to SDI converter or composite converter
to our affiliates...but it just seems like such a crying shame to take a clean
digital output, convert it to analog, only to convert it back again.
Would a device like the one below solve the issue?
Econonical HDMI HDCP modulator QAM ATSC DVB-T ISDB-T
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Econonical HDMI HDCP modulator QAM ATSC DVB-T ISDB-T
1 to 8 HDMI Digital RF Modulator with Closed Captioning is an all in one device
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Norm Kaiser - Manager of Business
DevelopmentRIGHTNOWTVhttp://www.RightNowTelevision.comnorm.kaiser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 12:44:27 PM CST, craigf199
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Norm,
Two reasons: Most broadcast encoders need an SDI signal via a BNC connection
as that would normally embed video, audio and CC. However, most of everyone's
EAS encoders still need a composite signal in which the signal feeds through
the EAS unit to overlay the video/audio EAS tones and messages if it's the
primary program for the station.
And yes, to answer your last question, most folks do not have direct HDMI
encoders as that isn't a broadcast standard configuration.
For your programming, anyone needing or wanting SDI would need an HDMI to SDI
converter like a BlackMagic Design HDMI to SDI Mini Converter. For HDMI to
analog, there are a number of very inexpensive (approx. $35) models from Radio
Shack or Parts Express, RCA, etc.
Craig FoxWTVU/WIXTSyracuse,
NY_____________________________________________________________
-----Original Message-----
From: Norm Kaiser <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <lptv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:52 pm
Subject: [lptv] Digital to Analog to Digital
Hi folks!
I was hoping everyone could help me understand some LPTV basics.
I've been partner now in a diginet for over two years. One thing I'm not
understanding is the fact that almost all of our affiliate stations, when we go
to ship them our playback device, almost all of them request a composite output.
Composite is analog.
The output of the playout device is digital HDMI.
The broadcast standard is digital.
So aren't the affiliates taking a digital output, converting it to analog, then
converting it back to digital again?
Why is this done? Is it because many folks don't have HDMI encoders?
Thanks!Norm
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