In my experience both logic and justice are abstracts which have nothing to do with our world as we know it. Obviously more visceral, "pragmatic", and violent approaches are equally useless. We seem to be out of options. Julie Krueger ========Original Message======== Subj: [lit-ideas] Re: ye olde political mindset Date: 8/3/06 11:26:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time From: _phil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:phil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxx) To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent on: Ursula Stange wrote: "Yes...visceral response IS the backbone of politics. The only way out is logical response." It seems to me that the last thing one would want is a logical response. After all, isn't the so-called Neocon agenda a thoroughly rational approach to politics? Everyone wants freedom, freedom comes through democracy, ergo everyone wants democracy, so lets give them democracy and they will love us. The last thing we need is more logical responses in politics. Rather, we need more visceral response, more revulsion to the death and destruction, and more care for peace. Instead of working out a plan that will ensure peace for generations, the politicians should be working out a plan to stop the shooting now. Logic has no place in the business of politics. Sadly, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html