[lit-ideas] Re: stupid stupid stupid news
- From: "Stan Spiegel" <writeforu2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:38:13 -0500
Let me ask you a question Andy, do you stick you nose into groups of
people who are playfully ribbing each other? Do you lecture them about
being 'mean'?
Frankly, Paul, you could have made your point more effectively without
calling Irene a "dickhead," and she would have heard you more clearly. My
blood pressure went up when I saw your string of obscenities. If Irene
didn't understand how close Erin and Mike are to each other, she's not the
only one. I didn't either.
Erin has fooled a lot of us into thinking she was older than she is. (She's
only a girl still in college, not even a graduate student going for her
Ph.D. as many thought she was. She's interacting with 40 - 70 year-olds as
if she were our equals intellectually and experientially.) But reading her
"Good riddance" speech to Irene, I realized she's younger than she seems --
acting like she's important and Irene isn't, as if she's part of the
in-group and Irene isn't. This is junior high school behavior, not even
college student behavior.
The disrespectful way you two have spoken to Irene isn't warranted, even if
she isn't as perceptive as you thought she should be. I thought the rules on
this listserv were no ad hominem attacks. Stick to the issues, would you
please? Let's pass on the character assassination.
I'm kinda surprised Andreas hasn't intervened here.
Stan Spiegel
Portland, ME
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Stone" <pas@xxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 12:31 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] stupid stupid stupid news
Let's look at the facts, just so everyone, especially those of you who
trash emails randomly has them:
1) Mike's new Grandchild has an unusual name
2) It is not pronounced the way it's spelled -- there was a discussion
about that
3) Erin made a very funny joke about the middle name
4) EVERYBODY [who has been paying attention] knows that Erin and MIke are
good friends
5) Andy Amago took her usual offence and stuck her foot in her mouth
6) I told her she was clueless
7) bitter fight ensued
8) Stan is sticking up for her?
Now those of us who are defending the defendable are called school
children.
I ask you to take a look at the facts which are completely available to
anyone who can read and actually wants to be sensible.
Let me ask you a question Andy, do you stick you nose into groups of
people who are playfully ribbing each other? Do you lecture them about
being 'mean'?
The posts in the last 13 hours are surreal and I'm BLAMING you... That's
right, it's your fault. Once again you were incredibly quick to jump on
another person so you could work in your warped social/psycho/historical
agenda to what you think are the facts. And you do it all the time with no
other discernible reason other than because you like the havoc that
results. Phil is absolutely right, you are a trollqueen. And... in case
you are ignorant of what that means, I'm not calling you ugly, or
mythologic, or evil, a "troll" in common internet parlance is someone who
deliberately TROLLS (as in fishing) for a fight. You do it remarkably
well. It's too bad we [at least I do] fall for it so easily. Now... I've
got relatives to visit.
paul
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Paul Stone
pas@xxxxxxxx
Leamington, ON. Canada
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