OK I give in, I admit ignorance. Why don't they speak English? Some older Muslim women here, immigrants, don't speak much English; their husbands do, of course. Children who go to the Muslim schools here speak English. [Note to Andy: all those accused of bombings spoke English, and it sounds as though they spoke good English.] Here in Wales, now, there are probably no older people who speak no English. Children who go to Welsh-language schools all speak good English. (Oh reading. OK. Well yes, they read English.) EY> The people who take the trash out of my building do not speak EY> English. Nor do most of the food deliverers on bikes at 10 PM. They EY> have far fewer choices. I agree. (Mine all speak English.) The issue, IMO, is not whether English classes should be provided and the learning of English encouraged -- alongside the provision of Urdu etc. interpreters etc. -- because of course they should; it's whether cultures, including linguistic ones, should be destroyed in the process. The Welsh said no, and won. (Here if you don't speak Welsh *as well as English* you have fewer choices... .) [Note to Robert. Hey I'd come there for the Cajun/Zydeco.] Judy -- mailto:judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html