As long as men and reactionary women control women's reproductive decisions, they will kill them, sell them, abort them. I was watching a program a few weeks ago about a pagan priest in Africa labeling young children as devils. Seems it frequently happens when the mother gets pregnant again. This enables the parents to throw the child out on the street. Too many children, not enough resources. I also read that young children, mostly girls, are sold to sex traders in Thailand because of extreme poverty. Mike is right to show that if the child is given up to the adoption agency, the end result is the same. And some agencies are for profit. I have a Chinese born granddaughter. Total cost: $10,000. And she is worth every cent, and rescued from life in an orphanage. Not sold by the mother. Veronica Caley Milford, MI Veronica Caley Milford, MI ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Geary To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 10:42 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: selling babies JL: >> HER mother was wrong, to name her Jesusa. I think that's ungrammatical, even.<< A mother sells her baby and JL worries about the grammatical correctness of the child's name!!!!!!!!! Ya gotta love language philosophers. >>Rather than 'until what age', I would ask, 'until what price' -- and you start seeing how wrong it all is.<< How wrong what is? The price? You're probably right. I doubt that the mother was a very savy business person -- of course I could be wrong, many a peasant knows how to turn a profit, but many more don't. I think my question is this: most people would not think it unethical for a mother to give up a child to the state or for adoption if she had very little economic prospect of being able to raise it. In fact, many would think it the ethical thing to do in order to save the child from a life of gleaning through garbage dumps for pittance. So if that's the case, if the child is to be "lost" in any event, why not "sell" it and use the money on the other kids, or to buy a new dress -- women do get tired of wearing the same old dress, you know. Or better yet, get drunk. Mike Geary Memphis 4 grandkids for sale, $1000 each. OBO. Ursulla, weren't you the one decrying a lack of grandkids? Here's your chance. On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 2:22 AM, <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> wrote: In a message dated 6/4/2010 3:00:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx writes: until what age? Ethics is fun --- Until what age what? Stone age? --- I think she was wrong. HER mother was wrong, to name her Jesusa. I think that's ungrammatical, even. ---------- Rather than 'until what age', I would ask, 'until what price' -- and you start seeing how wrong it all is. JL Speranza Buenos Aires, Argentina. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html