[lit-ideas] Re: sZ

  • From: palma <palmaadriano@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:17:01 +0200

zizek a political opposition party (with less success that Badiou...)


On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  There was hardly any political repression - in the form of political
> arrests, censorship and other stuff that would normally be meant by that
> term - going on in Yugoslavia from approximately the student protests in
> 1968., which managed to induce the regime to adopt a more tolerant policy.
> Žižek was born in 1947., so he would have been too young to fight
> repression much earlier than that. It is possible that he participated in
> the student protests in 1968. Tito eventually said that 'the students were
> right' and many of those who participated in the student protests went on
> to become members of the Communist Party. Žižek himself became a respected
> academic under the Communist regime.
>
>  O.K.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> What was the political repression against which Zizek fought, and in
>> which country ? I don't think that there were any particular political
>> restrictions in the former Yugoslavia in the 1980s in place to repress
>> post-structuralist academic philosophy. Foucault was translated and
>> published, for example. Moreover, Zizek was supposedly a Communist, or at
>> least a Marxist.
>>
>>  O.K.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:16 PM, palma <palmaadriano@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ​alas not the delicate persiflage of Barthes, but Zizek.
>>> a minor clown who got late into the scene for the political repression
>>> in his country, against which he valiantly fought. then subsumed, Marx
>>> would say by the bullshit of media, lacan, robespierre "light", etc.
>>> a colossal waste of clean sheet​
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:36 AM, <cblists@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03 Jul 2014, at 22:43, Phil Enns <phil.enns@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > ...
>>>> > A colleague suggested that I am not 'doing' philosophy properly,
>>>> > drawing on the following as a guide for how it's done.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> http://www.openculture.com/2013/04/a_shirtless_slavoj_zizek_explains_the_purpose_of_philosophy_from_the_comfort_of_his_bed.html
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what to think about Žižek (which is perhaps a polite way
>>>> of avoiding saying something negative). I like the epithet "clown prince of
>>>> academic superstardom" (and think that perhaps he does, too).
>>>>
>>>>  About Žižek's  “Philosophy does not solve problems ... The duty of
>>>> philosophy is not to solve problems, but to redefine problems, to show how
>>>> what we experience as a problem is a false problem. If what we experience
>>>> as a problem is a true problem, then you don’t need philosophy ... [just]
>>>> good science.”
>>>>
>>>> My response is to remind Žižek - and others - is the reminder that what
>>>> we now call 'science' was once known as 'natural philosophy', and is 'good'
>>>> only when those 'roots' - or 'foundations' - are clearly acknowledged and
>>>> (to stretch the metaphors) regularly examined for 'disease' and 'structural
>>>> defects'.
>>>>
>>>> Chris Bruce, in
>>>> Kiel, Germany
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