Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 6:11:19 PM, david ritchie wrote: >> It's all jolly boring, isn't it? jolly easy to make fun of? unless >> you're a put-upon student or (obviously far worse) a wrongly >> imprisoned terror suspect. Then it matters. dr> I did not convey my point. I don't think issues before Faculty dr> Councils are boring or not worth fighting for. What irks me is the dr> tendency to give away the farm and still call it a victory. when you posted, they hadn't -- according to the web page I read -- given away (any part of) the farm. I read that they have now, by a majority of 33, voted for 28 days. There has still been "one little victory". dr> I dr> understand that politics is the art of the possible, but imagine for dr> a moment that Blair had proposed detaining people for twenty eight dr> days without charge. Would people have said, "Seems o.k. to me," or dr> would they have decided that a similar two thirds reduction to seven dr> days was the new standard of victory? Given that the current term is 14 days, they would either have accepted the 28 days or gone for some interim period. I really don't know which would have happened. -- Judy Evans, Cardiff, UK mailto:judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html