[lit-ideas] Re: not as much about what you know but when (n d cusa)
- From: palma <palmaadriano@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 22:25:01 +0200
aside from the junk knowing who has nothing to do with knowing that [prop]p
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Walter C. Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx>
wrote:
> Some philosophy simply articulates common knowledge. Think of the 1st 2
> books
> of
> Kant's *Groundwork*. Such accounts are typically a tad more complex than
> the
> understanding or knowledge they attempt to explain, of course. I believe
> we
> have survived for a couple of millions years because much of what we know
> is
> "present" to us in a dispositional sense. The idea that JTB is what
> "k-that"
> means is an example of a theory that successfully explicates its "object
> domain" as the cog scie people at MIT like to say.. As Kant wrote in a
> different context, if you disagree you are the victim of reading too many
> philosophers who are indoctrinated by weird theories and just have too much
> free time on their hands
>
> I think this is what Bertie was on about when he said: "The point of
> philosophy
> is to start with something so simple as to seem not worth stating, and to
> end
> with something so paradoxical that no one will believe it."
>
> But of course another kind of contribution is to explicate the meaning of
> things
> that seem totally unclear to the indoctrinated due to an absence of
> requisite
> experience. As for example the phrase "knowing me knowing you." Here one
> requires not linguistic philosophy to parse it right but the experience of
> being in love with somebody. As I am on vacation, I am sure I will be
> spared
> from giving that analysis. (It takes a bit of Habermasian reflexivity,
> reciprocity and symmetry. Mirrors-upon-mirrors, but no smoke. Some Vulcan
> mind-reading may also prove helpful.)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Phil Enns <phil.enns@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
> > Walter O. wrote:
> >
> > "Knowing me knowing you." - I would submit that the reason why we can
> > understand that is that we accept JTB theory. Anyone got a problem
> > with that?
> >
> >
> > Accepting an account of JTB is a condition of understanding? There are
> > far more philosophically literate people than I had ever imagined. Or,
> > ...
> >
> > Phil
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