I am more and more surprised dalla prevalenza del cretino di Flaianiana
memoria.
the verificationist theory of meaning?
are there people who take it seriously?
consider
"there are less than 26 assholes on venus who are verificationist"
since there is no verification, it would be interesting to determine how
the verificationist understood the statement's not verifiable...
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On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:09 PM Walter Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx> wrote:
A vague, ill-formed, statement may come to be intelligible once put into
a particular semantic context. Absent an identification of such a
semantic context, a statement remains open to interpretation through a
variety of different semantic contexts. Consequently decidability as to
truth remains unclear until the context is determined. This poses no
valid objection to a verificationist conception of meaning.
Well that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
Cheers, Walter
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On 2020-04-30 15:04, Omar Kusturica wrote:
Well if a statement is intelligible but not decidable then yes it------------------------------------------------------------------
compromises that concept of truth.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 4:39 PM adriano paolo shaul gershom palma
<palmaadriano@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
decidability got zippo to do with truth
for those with a philosophy training the easy examples are Goedelian
sentences (from the 1920's) - such sentences are true and non
decidable
_~Bew_(G(_p_)) <-> P
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Kerem jojjenek maskor es kulonosen masho
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palma, a paolo shaul םֹשׁ ְרֵגּ
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 4:28 PM Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I am a good chess player in comparison to someone who just knows how
the horsie movies, but bad in comparison to a grandmaster. Without
some further qualification, the statement "Omar is a good chess
player" while intelligible, is not really decidable.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 4:24 PM Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I am not sure that Robert subscribed to a binary notion of truth in
all contexts. Yes, pregnancy would be an example of binary truth,
but there are plenty of examples in every-day life where it is
non-binary - Walter is tall in comparison to whom ?
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:33 PM Walter Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi pas,
So, as Husserl was wont to say: Provide us with an example and we'll
grant you all the rest. Give us a complex statement that is both
true
and false, i.e., truthy.
"Portions of truth"? "Truth" is not a count noun. You can't
dispense it
in portions as you would a cheese cake.
Cheers, Walter
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On 2020-04-30 06:35, Paul Stone wrote:
One can't be a little bit pregnant, but I think one might be ableto
speak portions of truth. I.E.: true/false as a binary only reallyis
works with very simple statements.
pas
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 4:52 AM Walter Okshevsky, <wokshevs@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Cheers, Walter
P.S. In honour of Bob: My first sentence above assumes that truth
lower
qualitative/scalar, as if a statement can possess a higher or
------------------------------------------------------------------degree of truth. (As in "truthiness.") Of course, that's very
false.
Truth is binary, like pregnancy.
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