[lit-ideas] Re: [lit-id] The Poverty of Heritage

  • From: Carol Kirschenbaum <carolkir@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 14:57:59 -0700

>There is a very sophisticated, organized boondoggle going on that is draining 
>>our 'welfare' system. These people are professional loafers who are living 
>off >the government and there are tens of thousands of them. 


ck: I keep hearing about such people, but I honestly haven't known anyone like 
that. I wonder if there's some urban mythology going on.  How do people pull 
off big welfare fraud schemes? I'm curious. Really.

The unmasked big welfare frauds that come to mind were run by medical clinics 
and private doctors bilking the Medicare funds. I can think of one horrible, 
local instance of "professional loafers"--two adults sisters who claimed to be 
caring for their mother (therefore entitled to the mother's Social Security 
check, and payment as formal caregivers). The old woman was dead, in fact, but 
not buried. 

The sisters were afraid to bury their mother because their checks would stop. 

I suspect mental illness had something to do with "professional loafing" here, 
and perhaps elsewhere.   

Carol
 


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Stone 
  To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:01 PM
  Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [lit-id] The Poverty of Heritage


  At 04:47 PM 5/25/2006, you wrote:


    Lawrence wrote:

    > Neither is blaming the government for their poverty.

     

    ck: Because the government is providing them with an income, Lawrence--the 
very thing you've been objecting to, I thought. 

  Nah... I think Lawrence is objecting to 'exorbitant' government income. You 
know like "I don't care if they pay your rent and buy you food, but damned if 
I'm going to keep you in beer and smokes".  That's perhaps an extreme position, 
but in Canada, where it's almost as socialist as Europe, that 'beer and smokes' 
has escalated to include "cell phones, big screen tvs, cars, etc". It kind of 
ticks a fellow off who has a 'good' job and still can barely afford those very 
same conveniences. I guess it must be the LACK of that 20,000 I pay to the 
government every year so that those people can live. 

  I still haven't arrived at a decision about to what extent I condone 
government support. I don't like what i see down South with utter destitution 
on every corner of big cities, folks truly left to rot, but I can't go whole 
hog either. I deeply resent that a good portion of my paycheque is divied up to 
the rest of the society for their -- in many, many cases, chosen proclivities 
towards 'poverty'. It's gone beyond just surviving above the poverty lines. 
There is a very sophisticated, organized boondoggle going on that is draining 
our 'welfare' system. These people are professional loafers who are living off 
the government and there are tens of thousands of them. 

  In case anyone thinks I speak from a position of ignorance, I urge you to 
visit 280 Sammon Ave in Toronto, an apartment I inhabited for 8 months in 1993 
that my partner (at the time) and I called "Hell Hath Three Stories". I think 
her and I were the ONLY people in the place who actually had a source of 
non-governmental income. That place was a non-stop party, unless you actually 
had to be somewhere in the morning. There are hundreds of buildings just like 
it in Toronto and every other city in Canada.

  feeling non-nostalgic,

  Paul


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  Paul Stone
  pas@xxxxxxxx
  Kingsville, ON, Canada 

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