William Ball wrote: "Ball's letters lack a little levity." And, in this case, a question. Count me in for the discussion. I would argue that virtue is a habit, can be developed, and so can be taught. I have done very little with the Protagoras and so would be interested in working with it, or at least seeing someone else's work. Working on the virtue of patience with three over stimulated kids, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html