[lit-ideas] Re: how long until lunch?

  • From: palma <palma@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:59:56 -0400 (EDT)

would you have the courtsy of going elsewhere to vomit?

who invented? do you have a name?

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, dsavory@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Numbers do not exist in nature. That we invented a number system for use in the 
natural world in which countable items may be found is
surely non-momentous. Morbidly numerous objects like grains of sand and 
difficult-to-count objects by the nebulosity like clouds are
no reason to throw non-momentousness into doubt.

This brings me to Richard's original objection to Mandelbrot and fractals. 
Surely Richard doesn't believe that mathematicians have
confused the map for the territory (that Borgesian story I referred to.) 
Mathematicians are aware that mathematical propositions only
map onto each other exactly/ axiomatically; they are approximations when mapped 
onto the real world. Moreover, a mathematician would
never make a stronger claim than ÿÿThe coastline of Britain can be scaled up and downÿÿ 
or ÿÿThe branching pattern in trees seems
fractalÿÿ; the business of mathematics is looking for numerical patterns not 
explaining them.

About Kant I say nothing. The mere mention of his name gives me a headache.

David Savory
Vancouver

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  [ _Quaestiones Naturales_, Adelard of Bath ]



Signora granda, testa che massa
massa ne passa, che quasi schissa,
Dia dei sostegni de cese e palassi
Dia de le taje che su ne tien fissi
Dia de le onde che le ne fa grassi,
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