[lit-ideas] heidegger

  • From: Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 05:09:33 +0000

Was a provincial religious boy. Since he had to suck cocks to get off front 
line services during the great war, he immediately invented a nazi pedigree and 
promoted his own career. Small groups of imbecils of religious bent, perhaps 
this buldman, immediately kept to licking the lederhosen of this small town 
After successfully escaping prosecution, promoting killing without firing a 
single shot, while firing  a handful of colleagues who did not fuck his ugly 
wife, he managed to cover his track having a jewish lover, among the many 
students he harassed. The followers included complete imbeciles such as gadamer.
Now after the lord took him away in his mercy the religious regimenst insist on 
reading the thousands o' pages. They discovered that he was also sincerely 

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My last post today!
Or is it Heideggeriana?
Grice once referred to Heidegger as "the greatest living philosopher".  

In a message dated 2/16/2015 2:23:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx writes:
I have not begun to read  Heidegger  or to contemplate his sermons sufficiently 
enough to pass  judgment on what he preaches.

So let's revise what C. B. posted.
"Bultmann and Heidegger were colleagues at Marburg in the 1920's".
"They attended each other's seminars; and Bultmann appears to have been caught 
up along with the others who quickly recognized Heidegger and his teaching as 
something extraordinary."

Bultmann said that, reading Heidegger, "thinking has come alive again, the 
intellectual treasures of the past, long believed to be dead, have been made to 
 speak again."
Bultmann: "And it has been found that they bring forth very different things 
than one sceptically assumed."
Bultmann: "There is a teacher."

Bultmann: "One can perhaps learn thinking."
Bultmann "One can perhaps learn that thinking, that springs as a passion from 
the simple fact of being-born-into-the-world."

"'Now,' Bultmann said to Heidegger, 'you must, like  Augustine,  write your 
"Confessions" -- not in the least for the sake of  the truth in your thought."
Heidegger's face turned to a petrified mask and he left, impolitely, without 
saying a word.
Another quote: "Some say that Heidegger's philosophy is a thing of  evil; not 
only is it 'de-humanizing', but it has corrupted much of 20th  century 
This was I think Carnap's idea, and Ayer. Ayer, in Vienna, learned from Carnap, 
and brought to Oxford the idea that Heidegger's "Nothing noths" was a breach of 
logical syntax (metaphysics as nonsense).
Another quote:

"why philosophy has allowed itself to be corrupted by  the 'Heidegger case'.
-- for the ascription of the quotes vide C. B.'s post, "Permission". 
Ayer refers once to "a Heidegger" in his 1935 book. Ayer might be particularly 
interested in Heidegger seeing that Ryle (Ayer's tutor) had  reviewed "Being 
and Time" for the journal "Mind":


"as there is no place in the empirical
world for many  of these 'entities', a special non-empirical world is invoked 
to house them.  To this error must be attributed, not only the utterances of a 
Heidegger,  who bases his metaphysics on the assumption that 'Nothing' 
is a name  which is used to denote something peculiarly mysterious."
P. L. Heath expresses it pretty well:

"The universe at large is fringed with nothingness, from which indeed  (how
else?) it must have been created, if created it was; and its beginning and end, 
like that of all change within it, must similarly be viewed as a passage  from 
one nothing to another, with an interlude of being in between. Such  thoughts, 
or others like them, have haunted the speculations of nullophile  
metaphysicians from Pythagoras to Pascal and from Hegel and his followers to  
Heidegger, Tillich and Sartre. Being and non being, as they see it, are 
complementary notions, dialectically entwined, and of equal status and 
importance; although Heidegger alone has extended their symmetry to the point 
of  equipping Das Nichts with a correlative (if nugatory) activity of noth-ing, 
or  nihilating, whereby it produces Angst in its votaries and untimely hilarity 
in  those, such as Carnap and Ayer, who have difficulty in parsing "nothing" as 
a  present participle of the verb "to noth.""
"If sentences such as "The nothing noths" and "Numbers speak silently" do 
express propositions, then one ought to be able to have de re knowledge by 
acquaintance with the propositions they express."

ps.: C. B. in "Re: Reading Heidegger": 
"if you have not read Heidegger in German, you have not read  Heidegger."
Well, Carnap read it in German ("Das Nichts nichtet"); Ayer translated. 
"If you have not read Heidegger in German, you have not read Heidegger" -- but 
his translator. 
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