[lit-ideas] Re: gashlycrumb tinies

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  • Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:20:03 EDT

Look up "facetious".
 
Julie Krueger

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<<Dollars negate the reality of  others. >> 
First thing you've said in a while  that I agree with.  That does worry me a 
bit .... 
Julie Krueger 



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> From: Eric Yost  <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
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> Date: 7/30/2005 8:32:06 PM
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> Andy:  ....  Maybe the potential for moral law within, a vastly 
> unrealized  potential indulged in by about 1% of the population.
>
> Eric: Is  this really true? Most non-sociopaths in the population 
> make value  judgments of some kind or other. Many of these judgments 
> require some  inner moral sense of some kind.


A.A. Most non-sociopaths  (non-sociopaths) pay their taxes because they'll
go to jail if they're  caught.  They pay for groceries because there are
store detectives and  people checking receipts in Walmart and sensors in
other stores.   Likewise they restrain themselves from assault and battery,
wri ting bad  checks, identity theft, whatever, because there are laws, lemon
laws and  many other laws.  Given an opportuntity to write laws favoring
their  interests, organizations such as pharma will write the laws to make
their  immoral behavior legal and then write advertising to convince you
they're  your friend.  Oil corporations are at this very moment  receiving
government subsidies while oil is over $50 a barrel.  If  civility were
natural, would this be happening?  This isn't mentioning  all the really bad
stuff.  All the moral judgments involved in white  collar crime, bullying in
schools, gossiping around water fountains,  needing to feel superior to
others, etc. etc. ad nauseum, happen every day  by and to nearly everybody. 
Historically and still in parts of the world,  things are far far worse. 
Where do you see inner moral  sense?


>
> A moral law [a priori] need not be based on  what "pleases the go ds," 
> as Plato shows in _Euthyphro_.  


Not please the gods, just please the police officer and the  teacher and the
store detective and the IRS auditor.


It could  just be that as we grow, we 
> tend toward less egotism and more sense  of the reality of others.
>


Growth is measured by  dollars.  Dollars negate the reality of others.  


Andy  Amago


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