In a message dated 3/27/2004 1:37:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, JulieReneB@xxxxxxx writes: That was the beginning of the 'liberation'â?¦ a liberation from . . . a certain measure of dignity. An interesting point about how people identify with their nations, regardless of circumstance. Even though human rights groups estimate that Saddam racked up 300,000 dead in mass graves, the author feels that his or her daily life under Saddam was more "dignified" than it now is under the occupation. If one's culture is always a stronger force than abstract ideas (body counts, freedom, etc.) what does that say about the future of globalization? Plus the blog author might feel differently in ten years, after the Baathist propaganda has worn off, assuming that Iraqi independence produces true autonomy and cultural integrity. Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html