I reckon that this is an attempt to bring more people into the battle on both sides, but some hearings have reached us that the War of Troy is already over. ________________________________ From: "Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx" <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 3:17 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] "You Like Chinese Food" In a message dated 6/11/2013 5:45:17 A.M. UTC-02, mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx writes: My fortune cookie read, "You like Chinese food." It was wrong. "Like" is a strong word; it is only OK. Part of the problem is linguistic; part is probabilistic. It may be argued that Chinese fortune cookie messages should employ Chinese concepts. And "OK" is _not_ a Chinese (but an American) concept. "You find Chinese food OK" sounds too vernacular to be credible. The probabilities of someone reading a Chinese fortune cookie message and NOT liking Chinese food are minimal. Note that the message did NOT read: "You LOVE Chinese food". The concept of 'liking' is one of the most English of all concepts. What makes it especially English is that the subject is the liker, not the thing-liked. The source is Old English lician "to please, be sufficient," from Proto-Germanic *likjan (cf. Old Norse lika, Old Frisian likia, Old High German lihhen, Gothic leikan "to please"), from *lik- "body, form; like, same." Note that, strictly, and etymologically, "You like Chinese food" means "You please Chinese food", or, less colloquially, "You are sufficient to Chinese food". "The basic meaning seems to be "to be like" (see like (adj.)), thus, "to be suitable." Like (and dislike) originally flowed the other way: It likes me, where we would say I like it. The modern flow began to appear late 14c. (cf. please). --- Note that if the Chinese fortune cookie had been written before the late 14c its meaning would be other. Cheers, Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html