Thanks to L. J. Helm for further quotes from Curtius, and update on his readings -- the two-volume life of Hitler. I have in my bedside table a life of Thatcher, so aren't we *being* civilised? Anyway, tried an OED search for Xerxesian, but no hit, so there it goes. This quote, though, under entry 'free' -- may interest: 1849 GROTE Greece II. lxix. (1862) VI. 216 To Xerxes, the conception of *free-citizenship..was..incomprehensible. ---- And perhaps just as well, since he could *brainwash* (plusei cephalou) his army. ---- On the other hand, Leonidas's 299 (I'm assuming he was one of the gang) _were_ free-citizens. The point has military relevance. I'm currrently reading Plato's POLITEIA (Loeb v. 1), and see that there's this footnote by the translator on the distinction between: * amateur soldier (as it were, strategike, I think, is the Greek) and * professional 'mercenary'. Plato goes on to point out that only 'courage' in the citizen is which counts (where I would translate 'citizen' as *civilian*). But this will surely is offensive to the military types (no derogation in 'type' -- think 'archetype'). For: --- while I can conceive the idea of a mercenary -- I can also conceive the idea of a 'civilian' who thinks his or her highest duty is of the military type (I'm talking confusedly). Plato says that the 'professional' military is like a 'hound' -- always prepared to fight --, must live in a continuous 'camp', and in general, cannot 'enjoy' the other pleasures that life is worth living for. Cheers, JL ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com