[lit-ideas] Re: World order??

  • From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:02:11 +0100

I don't know, Steve. It sounds exaggerated to me (re the UK) and ignores,
e.g., the Muslims who marched for peace (i.e. against violence) *in
Luton* -- where the piece was filed -- yesterday (they were not all
"old/er").  I accept that that's a counter-acting factor, as is the amount
of information our police get from the Muslim community (enabling them
easily to locate and arrest various terrorist suspects without any kind of
shoot-out or even force). I also know that there is disaffection among
Muslim youth here.

>Western democracies to establish an Islamic superstate under Shariah law,

as the piece says, it is a small group; and the "official" national Muslim
group that believes this is also small.  What I can't tell is how
exaggerated the NYT piece is.

I wouldn't say it's fantasy.

FYI

>>
On Friday, Abu Hamza, the cleric accused of tutoring Richard Reid before he
tried to blow up a Paris-to-Miami jetliner with explosives hidden in his
shoe, urged a crowd of 200 outside his former Finsbury Park mosque to
embrace death and the "culture of martyrdom."
>>>

that was the mosque the police raided (sent in helicopters, battered down
the doors): the main Muslim organizations here announced that this was not
desecration as it was not aimed at the mosque's religious activities. (Arms
were found there, and terrorist suspects -- not British.) The Govt is trying
to kick Hamza out, but there's a problem: he's a UK citizen. We are kicking
out -- back to you -- a US imam alleged to have taught Richard Reid, but
that was easy, his application for asylum was turned down. I believe though
the Govt has hopes of getting him.



Judy Evans
jaye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Fantasy??

TC,

/Steve Cameron, NJ

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 From today’s New York Times, front page:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/26/international/europe/26EURO.html


MILITANTS IN EUROPE OPENLY CALL FOR JIHAD AND THE RULE OF ISLAM

By Patrick E. Tayer and Don van Natta Jr.



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