[lit-ideas] Re: Wittgenstein's Garden

  • From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 10:03:03 -0800 (PST)

The garden is a totality of plants, not things.

On Saturday, March 1, 2014 3:50 PM, "Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx" <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> 
McEvoy: "[S]ome of Wittgenstein's thoughts were worked out as he sat  
overlooking his garden, and then subsequently amended. "1. The garden is all  
that is the case. 1.1 The garden divides into plots. "The limits of my garden  
are the limits of my world." "Whereof we cannot plant, thereof we should 
pass  over in silence". His famous "beetle-in-the-box" arose from a time when 
he  caught a ladybird in a matchbox and then sat in his garden for several 
days  opening and closing the box. The "private language" argument was 
originally the  "private garden" argument, which Wittgenstein derived from 
reflecting on how it  was not logically possible to have a garden entirely 
off from public  view. 

McEvoy is elaborating on a point raised  by Ritchie.

It should be pointed out, as Palma perhaps should, that the phrase,  
'garden all'italiana' is MISLEADING. The implicature is that Italians cannot  
conceive of a garden unless a symmetrical thing. But a brief inspection of  
gardening practices in Ancient Rome (especially up those irregular hills -- of  
which seven remain) should falsify (in Popper's sense) this  generalisation.

On the other hand, it is said that ENGLISH gardening is,  just to contrast 
with the Italians, 'irregular', and focused on 'wild' flowers.  

The French are somewhere in the middle between the symmetrical Italian  
conception of a garden and the irregular romantic English cottage-type  one.

Witters God  knows.




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