[lit-ideas] Re: Wittgenstein and humorhe believed

  • From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, palma <palmaadriano@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:51:49 -0800 (PST)

I suspect that it was a quotation.   O.K:



On Saturday, February 22, 2014 6:46 PM, Walter C. Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx> 
wrote:
 
If English was good enuff for Jesus Christ, why not also for palma??

Cheers, Walter



Quoting palma <palmaadriano@xxxxxxxxx>:

> l'unico  aspetto di non locale o periferica irrilevanza e' l'intonarsi
> del "*t'adoriam
> ostia divina, t'adoriam ostia d'amor", *come alquanto decentralizzante sia
> l'impatto del wittgensteinismo di tardo ritorno. alcuni sostennero persino
> che tutto cio' che rimase di questa chiacchera senza fine sia parkagsse, 19
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> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Donal McEvoy
> <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> 
> >
> > "The recent 'discussions' here of Wittgenstein's 'sense of humour' seem a
> > bit thin and jejune, in light of his serious interest in the subject of
> > humour."
> >
> >  They may be thin and jejune but so is this remark: Robert's post does
> > not really begin to say what position W had on humour (I suspect W did not
> > think the fundamentals of his position on humour could be said, but that's
> > another story); and the W remark about a Germany where humour was stamped
> > out also seems thin and jejune - can one really easily imagine a society
> > where humour is stamped out but the spirits of people are high [try to
> > imagine, as W elsewhere urges, "in a real case"]? Also Robert does not
> even
> > begin to indicate how W's "serious interest" in humour overlapped with
> what
> > W took have philosophical importance: we know W took "serious interest" in
> > designing a house but does that mean he thought this was of any
> > philosophical importance? This last point is of particular importance
> > because "recent 'discussions'" focused on whether there was humour in W's
> > philosophical work: that W cracked a joke or laughed at one, or even had a
> > "serious interest" in humour (of some unfleshed-out kind), serves only as
> a
> > (dare one say) thin and jejune basis for determining whether there is
> > humour in his major philosophical works.
> >
> >  Donal
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Saturday, 22 February 2014, 3:46, Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >   Wittgenstein not only had a sense of humour but thought a lot about
> > humour and the human condition. Some of what he thought is captured in
> > pages 528--533, of Monk's *Wittgenstein: the Duty of Genius.* Much of
> > what's there is expository, but Wittgenstein himself sometimes speaks. One
> > important aspect of Wittgenstein's thinking about humour is that he
> > believed that an understanding of it was close to an understanding of
> > music. (Apparently much of this is expressed in *Culture and Value*--which
> > I keep meaning to read.)
> >
> >  His well-known wit is another story.
> >
> >  'Humour is not a mood but a way of looking at the world,' [he] wrote
> > while he was in Rosro,* 'So if it is correct to say that humour was
> > stamped out in Nazi Germany, that does not mean that people were not in
> > good spirits, or anything of that sort, but something much deeper and more
> > important.' To understand what that 'something' is it would perhaps be
> > instructive to look at humour as something strange and incomprehensible.
> >
> > *Rosro, Norway
> >
> >  The recent 'discussions' here of Wittgenstein's 'sense of humour' seem a
> > bit thin and jejune, in light of his serious interest in the subject of
> > humour.
> >
> >  Robert Paul
> >  (Is that my toothache, or yours?)
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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