Michael Chase wrote: "... despite Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib, despite the fact that Cheney is furiously attempting to keep it legal for the CIA to use torture, despite the fact that the U.S. already ships suspects off to Poland and Romania, among other locations, so that they can be tortured in all tranquility... Surely such smugness is counterproductive." I didn't detect any smugness. As Eric so helpfully pointed out, the litany provided above by M. Chase lists some of the most contentious issues being vigorously debated in the U.S. whereas they are not even close to what is done on a regular basis by the terrorists in Iraq. It's a no-brainer as to which side is 'the better'. What is troubling is M. Chase's moral equivalency argument that regularly rears its ugly head. Sincerely, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html