[lit-ideas] Re: Why am I not surprised?

  • From: JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 16:26:25 EDT

On the other hand, I should mention, when my older daughter was in 6th  grade 
she knew what a "blow job" was and had girl "friends" who talked to her  
about it.  My jaw was on my chest for hours.
Julie Krueger

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surprised?  Date: 10/6/2006 2:48:43 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: 
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I ran into the word "masturbation" sometime in high school, quite possibly  
reading Ellison's Invisible Man.  I had to look in the dictionary. I was  
somewhat disconcerted.  I remember reading Catcher in the Rye and asking my  
what a hermaphrodite was.  She nearly  fainted.    At 13 my daughter calls 
penises "manparts" and  vaginas "girl parts".  She finds the anatomically 
correct words to be  "freeky" and "gross".
When will America grow up?
Julie Krueger

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surprised?  Date: 10/6/2006 2:23:51 P.M. Central Standard Time  From: 
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>> God punished Onan because he  failed to honour his cultural familial 
>> responsibility out of  jealousy and resentment. <<

Yes, this is what I was taught by the  priests.  Onanism is synonymous with 
coitus-interruptus, not jacking  off.  He was smote dead on the spot by God 
not for spilling his seed  but for breaking the traditional cultural 
practice.  God is very  conservative when it comes to Tradition.  But the 
Catholic Church says  that Onan's sin was in practicing contraceptive sex --  
to hell with  Jewish tradition.  No pleasure outside procreation.  It's the  
law.  Natural Law, that is.  And don't you dare try to remember  those night 
emission dreams either.

And what's with all this use of  the word "masturbation"?  I was thirty-two 
before I heard the word  'masturbation'.  It's a dirty word.  I prefer 
'self-abuse' or  'impure with myself'.  But not masturbation -- it reminds me 
of that  song from Hair:
"Sodomy, Fellatio, Cunnilingus, Pederasty
Father, why do  these words sound so nasty?
Masturbation Can be fun
Join the holy  orgy
Kama Sutra Everyone!"


Mark Twain had this  to say about self-abuse:

"Caesar, in his Commentaries, says, "To the  lonely it is company; to the 
forsaken it is a friend; to the aged and to the  impotent it is a benefactor. 
They that are penniless are yet rich, in that  they still have this majestic 
diversion."  In another place this  experienced observer has said, "There are 
times when I prefer it to  sodomy."
Robinson Crusoe says, "I cannot describe what I owe to this gentle  art." 
Queen Elizabeth said, "It is the bulwark of virginity."

Mike  Geary

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