[lit-ideas] Re: Why am I not surprised?
- From: JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx
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- Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 16:26:25 EDT
On the other hand, I should mention, when my older daughter was in 6th grade
she knew what a "blow job" was and had girl "friends" who talked to her
about it. My jaw was on my chest for hours.
Julie Krueger
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I ran into the word "masturbation" sometime in high school, quite possibly
reading Ellison's Invisible Man. I had to look in the dictionary. I was
somewhat disconcerted. I remember reading Catcher in the Rye and asking my
Mother
what a hermaphrodite was. She nearly fainted. At 13 my daughter calls
penises "manparts" and vaginas "girl parts". She finds the anatomically
correct words to be "freeky" and "gross".
When will America grow up?
Julie Krueger
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JK:
>> God punished Onan because he failed to honour his cultural familial
>> responsibility out of jealousy and resentment. <<
Yes, this is what I was taught by the priests. Onanism is synonymous with
coitus-interruptus, not jacking off. He was smote dead on the spot by God
not for spilling his seed but for breaking the traditional cultural
practice. God is very conservative when it comes to Tradition. But the
Catholic Church says that Onan's sin was in practicing contraceptive sex --
to hell with Jewish tradition. No pleasure outside procreation. It's the
law. Natural Law, that is. And don't you dare try to remember those night
emission dreams either.
And what's with all this use of the word "masturbation"? I was thirty-two
before I heard the word 'masturbation'. It's a dirty word. I prefer
'self-abuse' or 'impure with myself'. But not masturbation -- it reminds me
of that song from Hair:
"Sodomy, Fellatio, Cunnilingus, Pederasty
Father, why do these words sound so nasty?
Masturbation Can be fun
Join the holy orgy
Kama Sutra Everyone!"
Disgusting.
Mark Twain had this to say about self-abuse:
"Caesar, in his Commentaries, says, "To the lonely it is company; to the
forsaken it is a friend; to the aged and to the impotent it is a benefactor.
They that are penniless are yet rich, in that they still have this majestic
diversion." In another place this experienced observer has said, "There are
times when I prefer it to sodomy."
Robinson Crusoe says, "I cannot describe what I owe to this gentle art."
Queen Elizabeth said, "It is the bulwark of virginity."
Mike Geary
Memphis
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